Posted on 04/10/2022 5:47:16 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Lurid and false atrocity stories have been used before to encourage Western involvement in unnecessary wars.
The reports and photographs showing an apparent massacre in Bucha, Ukraine, are truly terrible. They are reminiscent of the atrocities used to galvanize Western opinion during Yugoslav Wars of the 1990s, when the Srebrenica Massacre and the Siege of Sarajevo were seared into Western consciousness.
Of course, pictures do not always tell the whole story. For example, to determine whether a war crime took place we must know who did the killing, why, and how. After all, the United States killed many thousands of Iraqis and Afghans, frequently by accident, in the course of those wars. Few in the United States or Europe would call those actions war crimes. This all became apparent after the United States exonerated itself for the annihilation of an Afghan family via a missile strike during the withdrawal of U.S. forces last summer. Oops.
Like any crime, a war crime must involve intent or at least recklessness. Killing civilians or POWs without trial, or humiliating them as an act of revenge, are each undoubtedly war crimes. The documented abuse of prisoners by Donetsk People’s Republic commander Givi was the basis for a Ukrainian war crimes investigation against him, before he was assassinated in 2017.
If civilians were shot and purposefully killed in Bucha, it undoubtedly would be a war crime and a terrible thing. But there are credible reasons to believe the so-called Bucha Massacre was not the doing of the Russian Forces, but rather of the Ukrainians—either local militia or SBU or some combination of thereof—as part of brutal reprisals against “saboteurs” and “Russian collaborators.”
First, this fits with a pattern of Ukrainian forces violating the rules of war, as evidenced by numerous videos showing the shooting of
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Wrong. Putin, Hillary, Biden and the DNC teamed to over throw Trump. You must be happy Biden is president.Trump kept Putin in his cage.
I spent a number of years in the United States Navy as a line officer, so you have nothing to teach me about war tactics.
There’s a reason we spent over twenty years in Afghanistan and Vietnam. In fact, there’s a reason we have gotten to a point where we are in a constant state of low level war since WWII.
All-out war makes wars brief. Perhaps you don’t recall the bombings of Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, or Nagasaki.
If a civilian population is frightened of the consequences of harboring guerrillas, those movements are less likely to form. Guerrilla movements drag war out forever, with the consequences being far mor hideous than a quick, over-and-done bloody attack. Guerrilla movements also spawn military juntas and rule after the combatants have left.
All-out war is not fun, righteous, or moral, but it is the best method of making it quick with less casualties overall than a “sterile” tactic of non-combatant avoidance…
So NATO was about to invade Russia. Got it. Excellent hypothesis.
Oh look, the Ukrainians killed even more of their citizens in a different town while that town was occupied by the Russian army.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/dozens-civilian-ukrainians-found-grave-044533406.html
I believe that it is not disputed that Russia’s tanks and army invaded Ukraine.
EVERYTHING ELSE that follows in this war results from Russia’s actions. Russia, and Russia alone, is at fault.
Russia, her army, her navy, and her leaders, are war criminals.
No reason to look elsewhere.
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