Posted on 04/03/2022 6:16:14 AM PDT by DoodleBob
THE experience of the global COVID-19 pandemic raises a troubling question about the state of human society: Why would so many otherwise intelligent people refuse vaccines that can save their lives and help protect their friends and loved ones?
The answer lies to a large extent in shame, and in the ways government officials, scientists and community leaders should and shouldn’t deploy it.
No doubt, the products of science have brought great benefits to humankind. But in their pursuit of new achievements, its practitioners haven’t always comported themselves in ways that inspire universal trust...
...the drama around vaccines boils down as always to the reasoning of the scientific elite, who invoke the greater good and often shame the recalcitrant for not knowing better...If we look at the crisis as a matter of the community’s health and survival, the COVID vaccine seemed like an ideal opportunity to deploy healthy shame. Getting vaccinated kept people from dying. Refusing was a form of freeloading, leaving the work of building herd immunity to others. Those who didn’t take the trouble to get vaccinated, it could be argued, were lazy, selfish, and ignorant.
...Part of the problem comes from science itself...For many, science now represents only the values of the elite, who also benefit from turbocharged tech, pharma, and finance stocks. From the perspective of the aggrieved lower orders, the elite not only lay claim to the lion’s share of wealth but also see themselves as arbiters of truth.
...the vaccine push must come from people they trust, not distant authorities. Whether it’s African Americans in Detroit, Hasidic Jews in New York, or pandemic deniers at a California hot yoga studio, doubters are far more likely to heed those who can attest to their love and support for them — their families, friends, neighbors, congregations.
(Excerpt) Read more at bworldonline.com ...
I know how to "listen to the science." I listen to the people who follow "the science" and do what they tell me to do.
Anyone can do it.
One big difference however is that I had at least a 6 month supply of Hydroxychloroquine. It was a legitimate Rx, for my diagnosed RA. I was reluctant to take it because I had a pretty disastrous experience with earlier prescribed Meds. As I had no flare ups I simply got the refills but never took it. That is until Trump mentioned it early on.
I literally have cared for many dozens, probably hundreds of these Patients and I never developed symptoms at all. I believe that the HCQ immunized me.
I agree with your Post here fully.
Is that Cathy or Charlie?
No one with green hair is going to shame me!
Fascists could use some friendly hangings.
“Follow the science”, but, “we can’t define what a woman is”.
Ain't NEVER taking it....
I could see taking this position a year ago, when there was still a chance the vaccines might be successful.
But they were a complete and total failure by any measure.
This is akin to bank robbers learning ahead of time that the vault is empty, but then proceeding with the risky bank robbery anyway.
Anyone who thinks I can be shamed into taking the needle is sadly mistaken.
They have no better means of convincing me to take the vax than shaming me into it?
They’ll need to come up with something of with more substance. Like, “It works and has no serious side effects and if something goes wrong, I will be recompensed for damages.”
They can KMA.
This vaccine is outdated and has little-to-no effect against any current strain.
There is only a downside, to taking it.
Or freak. Hard to tell these days. Had the same thought you did.
And thalidomide is great for morning sickness. Science says....
If her feet were as blue as her hair, she'd be a blue foot boobie
It never was.
And it sure isn't now.
Remember how science said ulcers were induced chiefly by stress or spicy food? It turns out, they are induced chiefly by bacteria. Whoops.
The history of science is littered with "no wait....that's wrong...THIS is right..." going through the rinse and repeat cycle endlessly.
And that's ok. Inquiry and challenge and "being a science heretic" is, in many ways, how mankind learns more and can fix more problems.
But science isn't math. Your checking account balance is the sum of deposits less sum of withdrawals. Always. Forever.
The problem arises when people try to equate science with math...usually they call it "settled science." And, to be sure, robust inquiry and disciplined application of the scientific method usually gives you clear and distinct results. Then, science is settled...until we get new data or better techniques, and then we get "wait a minute..".
For example, there was a most excellent article posted on how "settled science" wasn't so settled, wherein:
seems that Earth has been misplaced. According to a new map of the Milky Way galaxy, the Solar System's position isn't where we thought it was. Not only is it closer to the galactic centre - and the supermassive hole therein, Sagittarius A* - it's orbiting at a faster clip.
It further noted other "errors" in SCIENCE:
A good recent example of this is the red giant star Betelgeuse, which turned out to be closer to Earth than previous measurements suggested. This means that it's neither as large nor as bright as we thought. Another is the object CK Vulpeculae, a star that exploded 350 years ago. It's actually much farther away, which means that the explosion was brighter and more energetic, and requires a new explanation, since previous analyses were performed under the assumption it was relatively low energy
The other problem arises when Certain Powers work overtime to suppress assiduous inquiry. Which, is what we have today as well. It's a bad double whammy.
In the interest of full disclosure, my "science isn't math" quote came from a recent post on social sciences, that featured this brilliant give and take involving a Harvard faculty member critical of Charles Murray from the original article, that is worth reprinting - it is with regard to the "certainty of SCIENCE":
"so why should we let someone teach social science that we know to be wrong in our social science courses?"
Because it is possible that you are wrong.
Science is not mathematics. Newtonian physics was wrong. And social science is a further three rungs down in certainty from science.
Your level of certainty and arrogance about what can be said, and probably thought, smacks of religion, and not science. This is a political religion that permeates academia at the moment. And which I am fairly sure you will swear does not infect you, while the rest of us can see the symptoms quite plainly.
Only religions ban heretics from speaking because of the wrong-think they might cause. Real science loves a good heretic. In fact, honestly, the entire goal of science is to be a heretic. To have an idea that no other person ever had. Science is the pretty much the antithesis of your thought-police approach.
And most of academia used to be the antithesis of your thought police approach as well, until the religion of leftism took it over, with the direct help of people like you.
And there you have it from an utter ignoramus. Newtonian physics is right for 99.99% of terrestrial uses. It goes wrong when the speed of light is a factor.
If that ugly ole witch want a fake vax, then fine take it. Otherwise she can shut the hell up.
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