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I say let manufacturer imbed battery only if they provide 100% 5 year warranty on entire device
1 posted on 03/30/2022 8:53:50 AM PDT by George from New England
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To: George from New England

If you don’t like the product, don’t buy it. Making laws is what big government does.


2 posted on 03/30/2022 8:58:24 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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I can’t believe any Deep State is cool with people being able to easily remove batteries from their cellphones...

Unless they figure Faraday bags make it moot, and they’re more interested in you continuing to own one of the bleeping things...


3 posted on 03/30/2022 9:00:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: George from New England

Many laughed at the original Apple iPhone with its built-in battery, including me. Within five years almost everyone mimicked them,


4 posted on 03/30/2022 9:02:04 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (“...we would live very well without Facebook."-B.LeMaire)
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To: George from New England

The original reason for in device batteries was to increase the battery capacity. Easily switched out batteries require hard plastic cases and battery doors. Better to use that space for more battery capacity.

Plus with higher capacity batteries you can usually go all day on a single charge.


5 posted on 03/30/2022 9:02:21 AM PDT by sloanrb
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To: George from New England

How much will price and size increase or battery size/capacity decrease?


7 posted on 03/30/2022 9:03:18 AM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: George from New England

They are finally doing something right. The only reason they make the battery no replaceable is make ton of money of from people who either have to buy an entire new device or spend big money letting the original manufacturer replace the battery. Most people will just throw the product away unless it is near new. We throw so much away an just bury it.


9 posted on 03/30/2022 9:06:41 AM PDT by Revel
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To: George from New England

There are lots of places that repair out-of-warranty smartphones and replace batteries at reasonable prices. Just take them there.


11 posted on 03/30/2022 9:08:03 AM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: George from New England
Batteries were made unreplaceable to shrink the size and weight of products which people really liked, especially as batteries became smaller, more powerful and had longer life. The battery life is matched to the expected product life. I'm typing this on a 2014 MacBook Pro and the machine is constantly warning me that the battery is worn out. I'd have to change the USB ports, the battery, the keyboard, and a bunch of other stuff to put this machine back in tip-top condition. But then I'd have an eight year old obsolete computer.

These regulators are nuts.

Maybe the EU can, while they are at it, force Apple to make the RAM on all laptop models easily upgradeable. And force them to have replaceable video cards as well. (jk)


12 posted on 03/30/2022 9:09:16 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Sorry, I’m not a biologist.”)
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To: George from New England

Good plan if they go to a standardized battery system so you aren’t reliant upon OEM products.


13 posted on 03/30/2022 9:10:00 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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To: George from New England

Government is supposed to protect rights, not stop commerce.


15 posted on 03/30/2022 9:12:31 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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I have always purchased a phone with a field replaceable battery and carrying an extra, fully charged battery has saved my hide a few times during bad weather and airline travel.

Granted, I have had to buy LG G5 phones and the like. My current phone is a Samsung XCover Fieldpro, which is rigged, but a pain in the ass to use.

I look forward to having more choices...


16 posted on 03/30/2022 9:13:51 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: George from New England
USER-REPLACEABLE BATTERIES ARE COMING BACK TO PHONES IF THE EU GETS ITS WAY

There, fixed it.

18 posted on 03/30/2022 9:16:15 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: George from New England

Removing the battery means that the government can’t use it to track you even when it is turned off. That’s why the manufacturers had to design the phones with non-removable batteries.


35 posted on 03/30/2022 10:31:43 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: George from New England

Innovation by regulation. Let’s bring back 5-year plans next. They worked so well last century.


40 posted on 03/30/2022 11:34:16 AM PDT by AustinBill (consequence is what makes our choices real)
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To: George from New England

In many cases the lifespan of a cellphone is determined by how long the manufacturer continues to make batteries for it.


44 posted on 03/30/2022 1:47:22 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: George from New England
Pesonally, I'd really love for my phone to have a replaceable battery. I'd be willing to bet that most phones would also have 'super-sized' batteries available for those preferring more life on the device.

My ebook reader is a moderately generic android device. I'd be willing to trade off quite a bit more thickness for the extra time.Heck, I wouldn't really care if the thing was as thick as a real book if I didn't have to recharge the thing every day.

48 posted on 03/30/2022 1:54:47 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: George from New England

One argument for non-replaceable batteries is that the entire device can be reasonably well sealed to prevent moisture entry. That’s certainly important for some people.

External batteries are readily available which can be used to charge a phone. I have one that is about half the size of a phone, but you need a cable, so it is clumsy to use. It’s a good thing to have around in case of a power failure.

Loss of capacity over time is a known problem with lithium ion batteries. The recommendation is to not charge beyond 80% (that applies to electric cars as well). Apps exist to warn you when you reach a user definable charge limit, but at least with Android you can’t automatically stop charging unless you root the phone. I believe that is possible with iPhones, though. If so, kudos to Apple for allowing that.

Most users have no idea that routinely violating the 80% limit materially shortens the life of their phone’s battery, but phone manufacturers will never tell you that. They want you to buy a new phone every few years.

I see the local Walmart now has a reverse vending machine into which you can drop your old phone, and it will give you money back. That kind of thing appeals to the typical Walmart shopper.


59 posted on 03/30/2022 11:14:46 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (We are living in 1984. We have always been living in 1984.)
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Lap tops with removable batteries are what I miss. Hard reset.


64 posted on 03/31/2022 4:01:05 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: George from New England

Apple is not going to re-design the iPhone so the battery is user replaceable. They will exit the iPhone market in the EU if they are forced to do that re-design.


65 posted on 03/31/2022 4:03:14 AM PDT by Fury
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