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REPLACEABLE BATTERIES ARE COMING BACK TO PHONES IF THE EU GETS ITS WAY
https://hackaday.com/2022/03/30/replaceable-batteries-are-coming-back-to-phones-if-the-eu-gets-its-way/?s=09 ^

Posted on 03/30/2022 8:53:50 AM PDT by George from New England

Back in the day, just about everything that used a battery had a hatch or a hutch that you could open to pull it out and replace it if need be. Whether it was a radio, a cordless phone, or a cellphone, it was a cinch to swap out a battery.

These days, many devices hide their batteries, deep beneath tamper-proof stickers and warnings that state there are “no user serviceable components inside.” The EU wants to change all that, though, and has voted to mandate that everything from cellphones to e-bikes must have easily replaceable batteries, with the legislation coming into effect as soon as 2024. ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: battery; bureaucracy; cellphone; eu; europeanunion; nannystate; onesizefitsall; replaceable
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To: 1forest1

“...is a good thing for all of us.”

You’re in the company of a lot of evil people.


41 posted on 03/30/2022 11:36:04 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

“If you don’t like the product, don’t buy it.”

Try to find/buy a cell phone anymore with a removable battery.


42 posted on 03/30/2022 12:41:16 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: dragnet2
Who likes a product where if the battery fails rather quickly, you have no way of replacing the battery?

Me. I like my iPhone just the way it is. Between my wife and I, we’ve owned eight and never seen a battery fail prematurely.

43 posted on 03/30/2022 12:53:02 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: George from New England

In many cases the lifespan of a cellphone is determined by how long the manufacturer continues to make batteries for it.


44 posted on 03/30/2022 1:47:22 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Dr. Sivana

Palm Pilot beat them to by years.


45 posted on 03/30/2022 1:47:53 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: PIF

Way too many pins on CPUs these days. Ball-grid arrays need expensive tools to replace as well as talented bench technicians.


46 posted on 03/30/2022 1:52:18 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: mewzilla

You ca use metal window screen as well.


47 posted on 03/30/2022 1:53:41 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: George from New England
Pesonally, I'd really love for my phone to have a replaceable battery. I'd be willing to bet that most phones would also have 'super-sized' batteries available for those preferring more life on the device.

My ebook reader is a moderately generic android device. I'd be willing to trade off quite a bit more thickness for the extra time.Heck, I wouldn't really care if the thing was as thick as a real book if I didn't have to recharge the thing every day.

48 posted on 03/30/2022 1:54:47 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: 1forest1

Cell phone transmitters deliver 5 watts to the antenna. Little batteries can’t do that.


49 posted on 03/30/2022 1:55:07 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Right, computer repair and upgrading should be so simple a that a SJW could do it.


50 posted on 03/30/2022 2:26:55 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: zeugma

a replaceable battery. I’d be willing to bet that most phones would also have ‘super-sized’ batteries available

Yep. To keep your battery charged, you could carry your giant battery and mobile charging station in your backpack with a wire to your phone to charge it.

The same set up could charge your ear buds also - one wire to your phone and another to your earbuds with expansion ports ready for other mobile devices and more charging wires for each.

Maybe a charging wire to your electric scooter too?


51 posted on 03/30/2022 2:35:34 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: unixfox
Apple is FORCING us to purchase new iPads. I want my money back. Fckn thieves!

Agree. Apple hardware is their proprietary build. There is no excuse for not providing ongoing support. Microsoft manages to support a broad range of hardware from multiple suppliers. I deal with old generic PC hardware by running a Linux distro on it. Age is a benefit for Linux as it brings maturity to the drivers. I don't have the same option with Apple. No 3rd party alternative OS choices.

The Android ecosystem has a broader hardware base. It does bring new capabilities that won't run on older, less capable hardware. My only serious exposure is my cell phone. A new one every two years keeps the hardware in step with the Android updates.

Condolences on the Apple hardware lock-in.

52 posted on 03/30/2022 3:49:45 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: mewzilla
" Most of those Iphones require special super tiny tools to simply replace the battery. I've done it as well, but most people will not attempt it. "

I was given a used Samsung S6 a 3 years ago, which I did not activate (not worth the $) though I could connect to via out wireless and make calls via Google voice (which carries about as far as our cordless land lines!), and used its camera, but the battery ended up only lasting about 4 minutes.

So to save money, and as one who gets mechanical (built own PC, etc.), I watched vids on the procedure, and bought a Quantum 5610mAh (it says) Extended Slim Battery for about $14, and tried to replace it. And found it was not as in the vids and I ended up breaking it. Still have the battery though (legally returning lithium is not cheap or easy).

And while I am against over regulation, there are circumstances when industry becomes too much like a government and must be forced to modify its ways to be more user-friendly. However, smartphone with removable batteries are already here. Best Smartphone With Removable Battery in 2022

When’s the last time you saw a phone with a removable battery? It’s probably been a while. Cell phones with removable batteries seem to be a thing of the past, as trendy phones with slim designs have become the norm. Millennials have probably never even heard of Phones with replaceable batteries. That’s why finding the best smartphone with a removable battery is a daunting task these days. But we were up for the challenge. We researched and evaluated only the best of the best based on battery capacity, performance, and value. - https://kommandotech.com/gadgets/best-smartphone-with-removable-battery/#:~:text=Do%20any%20new%20phones%20have%20removable%20batteries%3F%20Yes%2C,LG%20still%20produce%20Android%20phones%20with%20replaceable%20batteries.

53 posted on 03/30/2022 5:56:08 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: TexasGator
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54 posted on 03/30/2022 5:59:55 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save U + be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“Try to find/buy a cell phone anymore with a removable battery.”

Then don’t buy a phone.


55 posted on 03/30/2022 7:00:44 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve
Think maybe the market has spoken? People don’t want to change batteries?

You've changed dozens of batteries and as I mentioned I've changed several myself. So there is two of us just on this thread alone, and probably 5 others who never commented. Based on this, do you think it's possible there could be tens of hundreds of thousands more who would prefer to buy a phone which is capable of simply changing out the battery if need be? There is no need to make changing out batteries complex or engineering cell phones where people need special micro tools to remove and replace a battery and always with a warning, "At your own risk", and or you'll void warranty etc. That's bull cheet.

56 posted on 03/30/2022 10:01:24 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Born to Conserve
Being on the side of the EU government is not something to admit to.

Where do ya get this? I never admitted to that. Your reckless comments are like involuntarily burps, it just comes up without thought. Get it right slick.

Having devises where the batteries can be simply and quickly be changed out if need be seems to some alien foreign concept to you, where one must belong to some political entity to support such a thing. What a poser.

57 posted on 03/30/2022 10:11:04 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Devices too!


58 posted on 03/30/2022 10:25:37 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: George from New England

One argument for non-replaceable batteries is that the entire device can be reasonably well sealed to prevent moisture entry. That’s certainly important for some people.

External batteries are readily available which can be used to charge a phone. I have one that is about half the size of a phone, but you need a cable, so it is clumsy to use. It’s a good thing to have around in case of a power failure.

Loss of capacity over time is a known problem with lithium ion batteries. The recommendation is to not charge beyond 80% (that applies to electric cars as well). Apps exist to warn you when you reach a user definable charge limit, but at least with Android you can’t automatically stop charging unless you root the phone. I believe that is possible with iPhones, though. If so, kudos to Apple for allowing that.

Most users have no idea that routinely violating the 80% limit materially shortens the life of their phone’s battery, but phone manufacturers will never tell you that. They want you to buy a new phone every few years.

I see the local Walmart now has a reverse vending machine into which you can drop your old phone, and it will give you money back. That kind of thing appeals to the typical Walmart shopper.


59 posted on 03/30/2022 11:14:46 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (We are living in 1984. We have always been living in 1984.)
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To: sloanrb

I think phones were required to have batteries you could not easily replace as you can be tracked at all times. You might think the phone is off but it is not.

I read about a criminal who they tracked and the police knew his location by his phone for days and months. There are apps that create maps for you from your travels.

The phone companies / manufacturers figured people were likely to buy a new phone for several hundred dollars if they could not replace the battery for $10 as before because the back is glued shut.

For do-it-yourselfers and those that might commit a crime you can remove the battery.
https://www.ifixit.com


60 posted on 03/30/2022 11:45:02 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy gas)
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