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Posted on 03/06/2022 4:20:35 AM PST by MtnClimber
The Ukraine situation is both more complex and fluid than many think.
My brother-in-law long hosted a radio show called “Whad’ya know?” The answer to which was always, “Not much.” I feel that way about the Russian attacks on Ukraine. It’s not that I haven’t tried. I’ve read everything I consider reliable on the subject and can’t begin to answer if the Russians are bogged down or simply regrouping. If they or the Ukrainians will win this fight.
Oh, there are some things I do know. I know that we've been bombarded by propaganda on both sides, and the Ukrainians have been particularly effective in making Putin the world’s pariah and his country along with him, despite the fact that thousands of Russians taking great risks are openly protesting this war. I know that civilians on both sides of the border are suffering great losses. I know that Ukrainian President Zelensky has charmed much of the world with his bravery and resistance calls. I know that the German government has taken an about-face and is upping its contributions to NATO, looking at strengthening its own conventional energy sources and, finally, regarding Russia as a more significant threat than Germany has for decades.
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What I am unclear about is what should we do now. Surveys I’ve seen indicate many -- maybe a majority of those polled -- want us to create and enforce a no-fly zone over Ukraine. What are they thinking? Do they realize this would mean shooting down Russian planes and expanding this war even further? Others talk about offering Ukraine NATO membership -- again, what are they thinking?
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Ukraine is a complex issue. I think Putis is a terrible person. Ukraine has a terrible history of mistreatment by old Soviet Union and now Russia. And Russia halso has a long history of being invaded by European countries coming through Ukraine.
Action plan:::: do nothing, do not get into this kerfuffle, remember these folks have been fighting for over a 1,000 years.
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I thought it was his dance in high heels that did that.
One thing that perplexes me is how is Ukraine receiving military supplies without Russia at least trying to slow that down. Reminds me of Viet Nam where we couldn’t shut down resupply of the Viet Cong from the north and eventually even had to invade Cambodia to try to cut supply. The Russians don’t seem to have any appetite to address resupply. Guess they thought it would not be an issue as they would take over in a week or so. Putin can’t bomb Poland like Nixon did Cambodia. Meanwhile looks like Russia’s own supply lines are not getting food and fuel to their forces in Ukraine. As we would say back in the day, looks like a cluster F...
“Ukraine has a terrible history of mistreatment by old Soviet Union and now Russia. “
In 1954, likewise. Ukraine took Russians and their territory.
Putin is a “power” person, sort of like a medieval king. History is replete with people like this, it’s a part of human nature. Some want power, others happy to be serfs.
The problem w/power people of his sort is that they are never content with what they have. They always want more. If you think he will stop at Ukraine, ask yourself, why he wasn’t content with what he already had? This is what puts Ukraine in the “can’t be ignored” category.
We can either work to stop him now, or later when he crosses a line that more people will accept as a “red” one.
Direct military action expands the boundary of the physical conflict but shortens it. Indirect action, like aid, cold war style activities, insurgent support, containment, etc., contains the boundary but extends the duration, perhaps for generations like the first cold war.
If it were a simple matter of waiting until Putin dies naturally, the choice would be obvious - extend the duration. However, the Russian system at this time is autocracy and Putin will just be followed by the next “king”.
I can understand why Trump opposed Nord Stream 2. Germany would receive billions from the US for NATO defense, against Russia, and then happily spend its own billions with Russia buying gas and oil.
But, I think the truth is, if you want to see the kind of threat NATO is designed to guard against end in Europe, then you should want the commercial intercourse with Russia that such activity represents.
Why is Germany in NATO? West Germany, when there were two, sure. But who is Germany guarding in NATO with leaky, rusty, non-functional GDR era missiles?
I am thinking that NATO is the Swamp and that it would not scale itself back at the fall of the Soviet Union, or at least plan to replace defense with peaceful commerce.
We all certainly need to know more than we do, to decide what our “leaders” are forcing on us.
For example the latest figures for Russian soldiers KIA is either 498 or 9700 depending on whether you believe the Russians or the Ukrianians.
That is a difference with a 20X factor, so I can only conclude that whatever 'reports' come from this area are all fiction.
This is much like the chi-com virus, people are dying with it but how many from it?
Never could get a real answer.
The cable news talking heads are all trying to impress us with their new found war experience and as usual give us pretty people with scripted opinions and few facts.
If/when they may slip a fact or two into the mix, who knows what to believe? Not me.
The author must have missed Kamala Harris' brilliant explanation on the subject of Ukraine.
With the EU there is no free commerce in Europe.
—> remember these folks have been fighting for over a 1,000 years.
Yes. The colors on the map of Europe have been running for 1,000 years.
Now we have two corrupt/evil non-democracies in a conflict.
Let europe solve their own backyard problems using their own money and children’s lives.
Many of those who resisted the government propaganda on covid are willing to submit as soon as someone waves a flag (not even the flag of the United States). If you thought the damage covid did to our societies, economies, and right to speak and protest was bad, just wait until World War 3.
The various wars in the Mid-East were predicated on “fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them here.” Any fight with the Russians ‘over there’ will end up over here. Every day a 9/11 (or worse). You will not be spectating this on TV, Twitter, or TikTok; you and your families will be a full participants.
“Ukraine: What do I Know?”
Ukraine: Why do I care?
I DON’T!
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The devil incarnate, George Soros supports Ukraine. The hideous human Putin started the shooting. If this is chocolate vs vanilla, I’ll have strawberry.
Khrushchev gave Sevastopol, Crimea, and parts of East Ukraine to create a “complete” Ukraine. Apparently done with no protest by the Duma, as it was viewed as normal back then.
Khrushchev himself was raised in Ukraine, so it could be seen as normal USSR process.
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