Posted on 03/01/2022 8:22:34 PM PST by ShadowAce
I have come to believe that the US is backing the wrong side in the Ukrainian invasion, and it is not an accident.
Trump and Putin were the two most powerful nationalistic leaders in the world. They have zero interest in the Great Rest or the New World Order. They are all about their own countries--as they should be. They were chosen to lead their respective country--not as governors for some world leader we may or may not know about (Deep State).
Trump was "defeated" in 2020 at the polls and dismissed from leadership. We all know what happened with that, and there is no need to go into it any more. Biden, the ultimate puppet figurehead is now in place.
As FreeRepublic has already documented, George Soros has spoken his support for Ukraine, and Ukraine itself has spoken the quiet part out loud. This war was a trap for Putin, and he jumped in with both feet.
Putin is currently undergoing his own purge. With this invasion he was forced into, he will lose control of his country and will probably be forced into "retirement." While I was not aware of Ukrainian military abilities, it should be obvious to anyone on this board that Putin SHOULD have been fully aware of what the Ukrainian military can do, and what his own military can do. I can only conclude that he was given false information on both of these topics by his own people, leading to this invasion. It seems to me that Putin now has two options--lose this war, or go big. Both are scary for him and the world.
To our north, Trudeau is playing the puppet very well, so he will continue to "lead" Canada. I think we all know he does not call the shots up there, either.
I believe that I know who *does* call the shows around the world, but that is an opinion for another time.
You’re very brave.
I’m ambivalent
We sure as hell cant trust our info nor our globalist elite leaders wishing us to choose one oligarchic regime over another
One of whom has arguably a top three military world power and second largest nuke arsenal and will not tolerate NATO in Ukraine and have said so forever
We caused this as much as anyone our leaders taking Uke govt and oligarch bribes and egging them on to where they are now
And same bunch now wants war
Great distraction for them from the debacle of their rule since they stole Trumps landslide from us
Same exact fcuking people folks
Joined by chickenhawk neocons ...who scratch the surface are Trump haters
Yes I’m talking about some big mouth talk radio icons
i have great respect for putin as a strong leader working tirelessly for his country. however, if you think we should be backing putin in his Ukrainian invasion, you can go straight to hell
>Putin was not chosen by the people to lead his country.
Do you think Zelensky was, given the US Deepstate involvement there?
If we don’t have honest elections, nobody does.
Agree 100%
If Putin starts threatening to invade new countries on Europe's perimeter, then the USA, France, and UK, will need to step up with our own nuclear deterrent.
And by your logic, Israel should also be wiped of the map.
Why can’t anyone read anymore? It’s not “my logic”; I was just saying what I think Putin may be thinking. I never said I agreed with it.
I was really surprised to discover just the other day that there are a large number of ethnic Greeks living in SW Ukraine; and that right now they are more fearful of the Azov Battalion than the Russians.
Re: 69 - Great point. Your second paragraph applies to MANY FReepers.
If Ukraine was invading Russia, I would agree with you.
Sides won’t matter much when the increase in oil prices (WTI is up $10 in 5 days) starts to get passed to the pump. $4-5 dollar gas prices for a majority of the country will get everyone’s attention.
“Putin or the Russian strongmen who’ll replace him will never allow this to happen regardless of the cost.”
Don’t you DARE say that! We need to personalize this against Putin (standard Alinsky tactic, by the way), suggesting that others in Russia might also be against Ukraine joining NATO completely undermines our effort.
“Wait till they find out Ukrainians don’t like faggotry.”
QUIET! That complicates things. We tried to keep Soros from chiming in too, but he did anyway.
Bonfire of the Vanities.
I like how you really dig deep.
“I was really surprised to discover just the other day that there are a large number of ethnic Greeks living in SW Ukraine; and that right now they are more fearful of the Azov Battalion than the Russians.”
QUIET! There are no Nazis in Ukraine. Repeat 5 times please.
The government of the US is full of criminals who have no ethics and use governmenr to enrich themselves.
I just look at this as a Cuban Missile crisis in reverse. NATO is building up forces in the NATO countries that were former Iron Curtain countries. Vlad has every right to be concerned about that. Going after Russia seemed to start during the Obama administration and it has continued with his third term in office with Joe Biden doing his bidding.
(1) The fact that Democrats, the deep state, Eurotrash politicians, globalists, homosexuals, the media, neocons, Pentagon swamp rats, the pop culture, radical feminists, $oros, and trannies all fear/hate Putin tells me he’s doing SOMETHING right.
(2) Why do otherwise good people on our side all the sudden trust the media on the Ukraine issue, knowing how the media lied about the 2020 election, the climate scam, covid, the January 6 protests, Trayvon, “Trump’s collusion,” and just about everything else, every time a “mainstream” talking head’s mouth opens?
Your assessment of this situation is ridiculous and I’m shocked that so many on this board agree with it. Putin is not the victim here, he is the aggressor. He wasn’t “forced” into invading Ukraine anymore than he was forced into invading Crimea. It’s no secret he wants to expand the borders of Russia and Crimea was step one. After Crimea it’s no surprise that Ukraine wanted to join NATO as they were next on the menu but their admission was never seriously considered. Even if it had been do you think Putin has real concerns about NATO invading Russia? The idea is absurd. NATO is a defensive organization originally formed to protect against the expansionist Soviet Union (and now an expansionist Russia). Putin objects to Nato on his border not because it is a threat but because it is an obstacle to his plans.
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