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What Russia Wants From Its Invasion of Ukraine—and Why Zelensky Is Evil [TRANSCRIPT and Video, with my introductory comments]
YOUTUBE ^ | Feb 26, 2022 | YOUTUBE Account Coach Red Pill

Posted on 03/01/2022 10:11:09 AM PST by ransomnote

In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 02/28/22 Vol.395, Q Day 1585genetic homophobe wrote:

Apologies if this has already been posted. Lifted from Sundance over at CTH. Interesting, US expat living in Ukraine.

https://youtu.be/1vdiEABLFoo

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The transcript below hi-lights information I'm seeing that shows Putin has already accomplished far more of his true agenda than the MSM wants us to know. He is not trying to destroy the nation or harm the populace, so evaluating his conduct thus far against the wrong objective will certainly make it look like he's failing.

The Ukraine fell in a coup orchestrated by Globalists, using the same tactics they hoped to employ again in the US at the 2nd Amendment protest in Richmond, Virginia. The Ukrainians had no Trump, so when defenseless Ukrainian protesters were gathered in a square, they were fired upon from surrounding buildings. It was a bloody massacre and the resulting mayhem blamed on the head of state, giving 'justification' for the coup.

Once the Ukraine was overthrown, the globalists worked to make it a militarized outpost from which they plan to project their power against Russia and constitutes a significant national security threat. Would the US welcome Chinese biowarfare labs and other militarized assets on the Mexican border? Wouldn't that be suspicious? If China told us it was a lab specifically committed to peaceful research, would anyone believe them? Putin is working to defang this threat by forcing out the globalists, killing the citizenry or destroying the country would serve no purpose. He's not losing.

After years of the MSM and other puppets trying to kill President Trump by framing him for treason (e.g., RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA), a crime punishable by death, my fellow Americans have suddenly decided that the MSM are telling the truth about Russia, and that there is legitimate reason for Globalist puppet masters to post biolabs on Putin's border. Nothing to see here, move along....

The writing in the MSM and CIA outposts like IMGUR is histrionic and at times silly, befitting a cartoon soundtrack. I'm surpised the propaganda framing the Globalist controlled Ukraine leadership as a heroic, altruistic champions of freedom, even as he uses untrained civilians as canon fodder and bleeding photo ops. If you're winning, you don't forcibly conscript untrained civilians to shed their blood for CNN.

I'm stunned that all those who lied about Trump for 5+ years are now soundly defended and supported by so many, even on FR, even after years of watching Biden and the CIA controlled MSM work so hard to kill us, and freedom around the world. It's bizarre to see people defending Biden and his fellow globalists support for Ukrainian oppression by ridiculing critics as paid propaganda.

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What Russia Wants From Its Invasion of Ukraine—and Why Zelensky Is Evil - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vdiEABLFoo

Computer generated transcript may include phoenetic errors and missing punctuation.

TRANSCRIPT BEGINS:

so today is saturday uh february 26th
and it's the third day of the invasion
of ukraine by russia
now
people in the united states do not seem
to understand what is going on in so far
as russia is invasion is concerned
because they keep saying that russia is
failing
which is the weirdest comment russia is
failing because russia hasn't taken out
the
infrastructure of
of ukraine hasn't hit the uh electrical
grid hasn't uh destroyed the uh
cell phone towers or or or the water
supply or something like that
it's just remarkable they keeps
insisting that the russians seem to
advance and then retreat whenever they
meet any resistance
and it's just a failure of imagination
on the part of so many american
commentators that they do not seem to
understand what russia is really doing
with this invasion because you see
the american mode of war
is to go to a country
and destroy everything
destroy the electrical grid cell towers
the water supply system everything just
destroy the whole thing
and then
roll in
that's not fighting a war that's just
mopping up the total annihilation
of a country
and the united states has done this
repeatedly in afghanistan in iraq in
libya in syria or they semi tried to do
it in syria i mean it's really kind of
like a despicable way of of making war
right but what are the russians doing
well see the russians they don't want to
destroy ukraine
no they don't want to destroy it at all
what they want to do is they want to
capture it
intact
see
and they don't want to hurt the
civilians why would they
from their point of view
if they harm civilians they just create
enemies
and so they want to capture ukraine
change the political leadership of
ukraine and install a political
leadership
that is sympathetic to russia's security
needs and is going to be a long-term
ally
but they don't want to alienate the
ukrainian population because if they
alienate the ukrainian population well
the ukrainian population will eventually
overthrow this puppet regime and the
russians want to install a puppet regime
let's not pretend otherwise
but they want to install a puppet regime
whereby the ukrainian citizens are more
or less indifferent to it
they don't want to install a puppet
regime after having made the lives of
ukrainians so miserable
so that's why they don't want to destroy
ukraine or harm the ukrainian populace
they want to capture
ukraine intact
change the political leadership and then
let it go of course because they don't
want to manage ukraine they don't want
it to be a burden on them
they don't want that long term
and so what are they doing
they are
rapidly invading the whole country and
and everybody concedes that they're
moving very very quickly but they're not
hitting any
civilian infrastructure they're only
hitting military targets
and they are relentless in hitting the
military targets but always with a
certain degree of caution
and i'll explain why in just a moment
but they're hitting military targets
they are avoiding civilian populations
and civilian infrastructure
and when they go to a city or a
destination
when they encounter any resistance from
the ukrainian army
any serious resistance they stop and
pull back
because what are they doing
they are encircling
that's their whole strategy and it's
very simple and if you look at a map
you'd realize it
what the russians are doing is that
whenever they go to a major city like
kiev like kharkov and soon enough
they're going to be in yeah pro
when they get to those cities they go up
to those cities
and they meet some resistance and then
they pull back
and they allow their forces to start to
surround it that's the strategy they're
employing in kiev
that's the strategy that they're
employing in karkov they are encircling
these cities
and once they've completely encircled
them what will they do
they'll wait
that's what they'll do
see if you surround a city
all you have to do is just wait around
eventually it'll fall of course
and so the russians are systematically
surrounding all of the major cities and
whenever they come across a smaller town
or or village they just advance and
cover it and capture it and move on and
continue with their advance whenever
they meet any kind of serious resistance
they stop pull back
and then encircle
one of the things that they want to
capture intact and people don't seem to
realize this but it's very obvious if
you think about it
they are trying to capture the ukrainian
army
that's not why there hasn't been any
major battles with you know hundreds or
thousands of casualties
it's been light skirmishes
for all intents and purposes the russian
army is tiptoeing into
ukraine insofar as air power is
concerned
the russians in the first three hours
wiped the ukrainian skies of everything
the russians owned the ukrainian skies
any plane flying is russian
but insofar as their army is concerned
this isn't world war two this isn't a
world war two where the russian armies
were
you know
i mean just you know kissing cousins of
the mongol hordes you know what i'm
saying
no this is the modern russian army that
has the goal of capturing intact
ukraine and the ukrainian army
because the russians realize that once
they have captured ukraine
and changed the political leadership
they will need an army
to protect and look after
the ukrainian state and the ukrainian
people and the ukrainian land they don't
want to destroy the ukrainian army they
could do that if they wanted to they
would have done that already they owned
the skies
over ukraine
their goal is to capture ukraine
capture the ukrainian army with as
little casualties as possible to the
ukrainian army
and that's why whenever they come up
against serious ukrainian resistance
they keep consistently pulling back
and in the west this is interpreted as
the russians are weak which is so weird
it's like the russians are so weak
they're not advancing as fast i mean
well that is a separate issue that i'm
going to get to in just a moment but the
russians are so weak because they're not
obliterating
the ukrainian army
because that's what the americans do
they obliterate
anything that crosses their path
friend or fro they don't really care
but the russians do care
that's why they're not obliterating the
ukrainian army when they could
a friend of mine alex christoforou
and the duran and great show
he pointed out something that i'd never
considered which is very obvious he
pointed out the fact that you see the
current ukrainian leadership in the
military the generals
in ukraine
they went to military academies
with the generals of the russian armies
their drinking buddies since when they
were back in like 18 year old 19 year
old plebes
they know each other
they don't want to kill each other of
course not
i mean
you've got some buddy when you were
drinking out when you were 18 right you
want to kill him no you could be on
opposing sides of whatever contest but
you don't want to hurt him of course not
uh you'll be pissed off at him maybe but
you don't want to kill him
the russian army doesn't want to destroy
the ukrainian army they could have done
it already
in these three days of combat
once the russians owned the skies over
ukraine
they could have done whatever they
wanted with the ukrainian army they
could have annihilated it just blown it
to smithereens and blown away the entire
population of ukraine if they wanted to
they could cause a major major
humanitarian crisis if they wanted to
and they obviously don't
how do i know this because they haven't
done it they have had the opportunity
for three days to do it and they haven't
done it
i'm doing this stupid video
from a hotel room in downtown kiev and
i'm gonna upload it to the internet do
you think i'd be able to do it if the
russians were really serious about
conquering ukraine
they want to capture it understand that
and understand that you in the west
you are being goaded into thinking that
putin and the russians are like evil
antichrist
you don't understand why
the russians are invading
and your political leadership
boris johnson joe biden all these people
they don't want you to understand of
course not they want you to just
demonize just to take the easy way out
they want you to imagine that this is a
marvel comic book movie
and that you know there are white hats
and black hats good guys and bad guys
yee we gotta kill the bad guys because
we're the good guys yeah
it's so naive
the russians don't want to harm ukraine
they would have destroyed ukraine if
they wanted to
but they don't they want to capture it
in one piece
now
you can say that
russia's motivations or this that the
other it doesn't matter you have to look
at the practical reality that is taking
place now
what really bothers me
and perhaps this isn't a wise thing for
me to say while i'm still in ukraine
under the zielenski regime
what really bothers me is that the
zelinski regime
has no trouble causing a humanitarian
crisis in fact they welcome a
humanitarian crisis they would love to
see dead ukrainians
and i know this for a fact and do you
know how i know this for a fact
because the zelensky government has been
handing out ak-47s willy-nilly
to the civilian population
as i understand it they've already
handed out 10 000 ak-47s and munitions
to match
now you see if you've never had any kind
of military experience
you with a weapon like that you can
become extremely dangerous to all the
people around you and to yourself
it takes training to operate a firearm
you have to know what you're doing it's
it's not a casual thing
okay it's not like in the movies
it's very very dangerous and you can
harm yourself
before you harm anybody else and the
harm you can cause to others
is you know
it's incalculable and and you can't take
it back
now the zelinski regime is handing out
these weapons
teaching people how to use molotov
cocktails how to make molotov cocktails
and use them themselves they want to
foment the people to fight the war
against the russians
and the thing is see the russians have
professional soldiers now these
professional soldiers you know they
carry a weapon they know what to do with
the weapon if they see somebody armed be
it a man in a uniform or just a civilian
with an ak-47 well they're gonna shoot
him okay
and so that civilian will be dead
and that will present a great photo op
now won't it
so that zelensky
can wrangle some european country or the
americans or whomever
to
come in and get involved in this war
and potentially escalate the situation
to levels that are unimaginable
the zelensky regime is doing something
frankly evil because it is evil
to put civilians to encourage civilians
to do something that incredibly
dangerous and irresponsible
the zolensky regime has also put
heavy weaponry
in civilian population centers
now
these heavy weapons howitzers and
whatnot
they're dangerous
and so the russian army
has every right and obligation to
destroy such heavy weapons but of course
when trying to destroy such weapons it's
inevitable that you're not going to
quite hit the weapons when you try to
aim for them you're going to hit around
the weapons
and therefore if these weapons are in
the middle
of apartment complexes
you're going to have russians
shelling apartment complexes killing
innocent civilians
the zelensky regime is putting these
weapons in the middle
of populated areas precisely because
they want
to have this happen
and i'll tell you something else that
the zelinski regime is doing they are
forcibly conscripting men between the
ages of 18 and 60.
they are not allowing them to leave the
country and if they try to leave the
country they are arrested and forcibly
conscripted that is forcibly put into
the ukrainian army
now
what has happened because of this well
just about every man between the ages of
18 and 60
is running away from the cities
that's why there are so many refugees
it's not that they're seriously thinking
that the russians are going to shell and
destroy their apartments or their homes
or whatnot they're afraid of getting
arrested and forcibly conscripted the
women
and the young children and old men are
having to hide these men who are between
the ages of 18 and 60. and by the way
this isn't something that i heard people
that i know personally
people that i do business with i know
them i know them i've gone drinking with
them eating with them doing deals with
them
they've had to leave give
for fear
of being forcibly pressed
into the ukrainian army
middle-aged men farts like me
who are out of shape you know we're real
good at some business deal but crappy at
uh carrying a backpack and a weapon with
no experience whatsoever in such
activity
and the ukrainian government the
zielinski regime is doing this
and why do you think they're doing it
well first of all you don't forcibly
conscript men into your army if you
think that you're winning now do you
of course not
number one and number two
by having this forcible conscription
you scare all the men and you create
all on your own
a whole class of refugees of people
fleeing the cities
they're not afraid of the russians
they're afraid of the ukrainian regime
that is trying to press them into
service that's what's going on
and so you see all the video images of
people fleeing the city and you and the
west you and the united states and
western europe think oh they're afraid
of the russians no they're afraid of the
zielinski regime
but i have to say that
the issue of
handing out weapons
to civilians who don't know how to
handle them and that is the thing i find
most despicable
because they are willing to have these
poor civilians who know nothing of
weaponry
become
martyrs
because the russian soldiers who see
some civilian with a gun well what do
you think he's going to do
he's going to shoot him
and that innocent civilian who doesn't
even know how to hold the damn weapon is
going to die needlessly for nothing for
absolutely nothing
and i find that despicable i find that
truly evil
also the zielinski regime can get a nice
photo op
that's what's going on
and if you want to say that the message
i'm saying is pro-russian or pro-putin
or i'm a putin stooge or useful idiot or
whatever fine i don't care i mean i
don't really care your opinion man i
don't give a [ __ ] what you think about
me
i'm telling you the truth
i'm here i'm here in kiev
in the downtown waiting for the russians
to invade the damn place huh so i know
what i'm talking about
none of this stuff is appearing in the
mainstream media now is it huh because
i'm not following the american or
european mainstream media because i know
it's just a pack of lies but probably
what i'm saying in this video
you haven't heard it well now you're
hearing it
and think a little bit huh i mean in
this channel what have i always told you
stupid [ __ ] huh think for
yourself
think look at the information that you
have available
and ask yourself why something is
happening the way it's happening
it's not arbitrary it's not by chance
people have thought through what they
are doing the russians have certainly
thought through what they're doing
the best that we can hope for is that
the zelensky regime fails in its attempt
to wrangle in the europeans and the
americans into this war
and the zelensky regime collapses or
flees or whatever
and russia is able to take ukraine in
one piece without harming too many
people
and that's the best that we can hope for
or if not the whole country will be
destroyed
millions of people will be displaced
hundreds of thousands perhaps even
millions killed
and this is the exact same thing that
happened in iraq
let's hope that we don't have a second
iraq

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To: ransomnote
"People can read the transcript"

People can read Putin's transcript, indeed. Quite a long thread on that very thing.

"In view of the historical destiny of Russia and its peoples, the Leninist principles of state-building were not only a mistake, but far worse than a mistake. After the collapse of the USSR in 1991 this became absolutely obvious.

Of course, the events of the past cannot be changed, but we must at least speak about them directly and honestly, without reservations and without political coloration. I can only add that the considerations of the current political conjuncture, however spectacular and advantageous they may seem at a given moment, should not or cannot under any circumstances form the basis for the fundamental principles of statehood.

This is neither the time nor the place to discuss issues of state or constitutional law and to define the concept of citizenship. Nevertheless, the question arises: why did the country have to be shaken even further under these already difficult circumstances?"

Putin says it out loud, in black and white: 'You have no 'state', you have no 'sovereignty', and you have no 'citizenship' -- other than what I grant you of all of those 3 -- so, I'm going to Kiev'.

21 posted on 03/01/2022 10:45:58 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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To: ransomnote

I watched that a few days ago. It makes no sense. He is also the guy who said get out of western nations because they are soon to be totalitarian regimes. So he went to Ukraine which is under attack by a totalitarian regime. I don’t agree with his take on the situation but with the amount of propaganda on both sides who knows what is going on. There is a lot we are not being told and now that Chomo Joe is ‘president’ the rest of Europe is getting a slap in the face from the reality of a weak USA.


22 posted on 03/01/2022 10:47:29 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: ransomnote
Hey Vlad -

Give it a rest, OK? Your English is getting better but the text is pure old-school KGB.

23 posted on 03/01/2022 10:48:55 AM PST by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: Bobalu

Love that gif, lol.


24 posted on 03/01/2022 10:49:58 AM PST by avenir
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To: ransomnote

This guy is on other youtube channels. He’s very logical - he says the same thing as some of the more rational (but unpopular) ex-generals that FOX news will put on late at night when no one is watching.

Russia wants to capture Ukraine in tact, as they plan to re-absorbed it into Russia.

Why is the world still getting tic toc and instagram videos from Ukraine? Because Russia has not shut off the water, electricity or internet

They might later - they are waiting for Zelensky to surrender.


25 posted on 03/01/2022 10:54:42 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Organic Panic

“I don’t agree with his take on the situation but with the amount of propaganda on both sides who knows what is going on.”

Everyone should take this sane approach.


26 posted on 03/01/2022 10:55:46 AM PST by avenir
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To: Chainmail

So are you voting for Biden in 2024? Because Biden and the CIA’s MSM are all supporting your mindset.


27 posted on 03/01/2022 10:56:18 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Now you're an apologist for the Kremlin.

Qtards going all in for Putin? Color me NOT surprised. All the pics of shirtless Putin in the Q threads was kind of a hint, no? Q was never about making America great. It is about convincing people Americans are the bad guys. If there were war between US and Russia, I think we know who they'd be cheering for...

28 posted on 03/01/2022 10:59:40 AM PST by ETCM
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To: ransomnote

This is pretty much the same way I see it. Thanks for posting.


29 posted on 03/01/2022 11:00:23 AM PST by conservativeimage (Spark up a fire. Light up this place. Burn out this darkness and tear down the fear.)
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To: ransomnote

Thank you for the post. The entire ‘war’ is loaded with
so many lies and possibilities; difficult to grab the truth
and reasons. Anything that can be done to destroy the global
elites and the plans they have made to rule over the world
is applauded here!. Mr. PotatoHead has disturbed the hornet’s nest that is now in the process of bringing down CB
elites and bio labs. Score cards would be greatly appreciated for those of us with waffled minds.

Walked into the theater after the movie had begun to play; now attempting to follow the plot.


30 posted on 03/01/2022 11:01:11 AM PST by V K Lee (Our CONSTITUTION. Written with DIVINE assistence by very wise men. A document unlike any other.)
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To: ransomnote

Everyone should be careful about believing what we are being told in unison by the media. We all have to remember how this is the same media who lied us into wars with Iraq, who lied to us about “hands up don’t shoot”, Trayvon Martin, Kyle Rittenhouse, all the “mostly peaceful” riots, all the encyclopedic pile of lies they told us about Trump, January 6th, the “most hones and secure election in history” and the lies are endless.

What makes ANYONE think that they aren’t lying this time as well?


31 posted on 03/01/2022 11:01:58 AM PST by euram
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To: ransomnote
Non-sequitur. It's quite possible for the MSM to deny that the front porch is on fire while correctly pointing out that the back porch is on fire.

Right now they are trying to spin this as "Biden's" leadership. If this turns into another debacle like Afghanistan (which I suspect, barring some miracles on the Ukrainian side), look for the MSM to immediately start attacking Ukraine.

To them, the truth has nothing to do with this, it's whatever line of bull that serves the Dem Party at the moment.

Look at State: they actually seem impatient that Kiev hasn't fallen yet because they want Russia's help negotiating more concessions to Iran.

32 posted on 03/01/2022 11:05:13 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: euram
What makes ANYONE think that they aren’t lying this time as well?

The shrill tones and utterly simplistic narratives of the US Media this time are even beyond lies. Its a kind of hysteria.

I was forced to watch CBS Evening news last night. They devoted 5 minutes (which is huge for a 30 minute commercial program) about "Americans who believe Putin disinformation and how to combat it."

Not only are they lying, they are laying the foundation to restrict civil liberties of anyone who questions them.

33 posted on 03/01/2022 11:10:24 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Organic Panic

We lack perspective and the media can no longer be counted upon to fill in the blanks.


34 posted on 03/01/2022 11:13:26 AM PST by Bratch
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To: pierrem15
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled What Russia Wants From Its Invasion of Ukraine—and Why Zelensky Is Evil [TRANSCRIPT and Video, with my introductory comments]pierrem15 wrote:
Non-sequitur. It's quite possible for the MSM to deny that the front porch is on fire while correctly pointing out that the back porch is on fire.

Right now they are trying to spin this as "Biden's" leadership. If this turns into another debacle like Afghanistan (which I suspect, barring some miracles on the Ukrainian side), look for the MSM to immediately start attacking Ukraine.

To them, the truth has nothing to do with this, it's whatever line of bull that serves the Dem Party at the moment.

Look at State: they actually seem impatient that Kiev hasn't fallen yet because they want Russia's help negotiating more concessions to Iran.

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Disagree.

Biden/MSM and other globalists know they can't show their hand so they will say whatever they need to say for optics. But after 5 years of everyone in the corrupt US government claiming that the CCP is not a threat, and that RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA is the enemy, those very same outlets/puppets are once again saying Russia is the enemy. After 5 years of constant propaganda bombardment, why isn't anyone doubting the latest psyop framing RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA?

This is more than just the Dem party - it's enemies foreign and domestic collaborating against the free or just 'freeist' nations.

35 posted on 03/01/2022 11:43:00 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Boogieman

The bandwidth wasted here on FR with incessant, utter nonsense is something else.


36 posted on 03/01/2022 11:43:04 AM PST by Cecily
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To: pierrem15

No its absolute truth. The only thing I would argue with is that I’m not convinced Zelensky is a bad guy. He may well survive this if he can shut up about joining the EU.

The American public is so mind farmed to hate Russia that its become ridiculous. The Ukraine is a NWO cabal playground. Corrupt beyond belief. Money laundering, child trafficking, drug and gun running you name it. Putin is taking that down and it will weaken the deep state here also.


37 posted on 03/01/2022 11:48:45 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: ransomnote
Even Obama claimed to be "pivoting" to the Pacific, even as he gutted the US defense budget with the cooperation of he GOP.

The "Russia, Russia, Russia" stuff originated from Hilary's campaign and was pushed by the deep state to tar Trump.

What was false about the "Russia, Russia, Russia" stuff were the claims of "massive" Russian involvement in the elections and that Trump was secretly influenced by or a friend of Putin's.

The -fact- that Russia is an enemy is not affected by the lies told regarding Trump or Russian influence here. The false claims are predicated on the fact that Russia is actually an enemy.

38 posted on 03/01/2022 11:51:18 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: ransomnote

You sir, are a Russian plant.


39 posted on 03/01/2022 11:52:05 AM PST by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: ETCM

You’re so full of crap it staggers the human mind.

Try reading the Q posts themselves, they contradict your central contention.


40 posted on 03/01/2022 11:58:53 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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