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GMC Hummer EV's Weight Shows GM Completely Missed the Point With EVs
Auto evolution ^ | 19 Feb 2022 | Gustavo Henrique Ruffo

Posted on 02/19/2022 3:25:07 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

The massive electric pickup truck made some headlines these days because of its enormous weight. It already had raised concerns from safety specialists frightened with what a 9,063 pounds (4,103 kilograms) accelerating from 0 to 60 mph (97 kph) in 3 seconds could represent in traffic.

The battery pack alone weighs 2,923 lb (1,326 kg). It has a usable capacity of 212.7 kWh. Car and Driver calculated its gross capacity, and that’s 246.8 kWh. We have already mentioned it weighs as much as compact cars such as the Toyota Corolla ...

... The Rivian R1T achieves a 70 MPGe rating, which is 49% superior to what the GMC EV presents.

(Excerpt) Read more at autoevolution.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Humor; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; hummer
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To: Ikeon

You cant stop a 5 ton vehicle at 60mph in <175’ and at 0-60 in 3 SECONDS its a death mobile.


41 posted on 02/19/2022 4:55:47 PM PST by Ikeon (I never cared about what color you were, until you started blaming me for your personal problems)
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To: dsrtsage

And he probably trailered another one so he had something to drive when this frontliner wasn’t running.


42 posted on 02/19/2022 4:59:33 PM PST by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I can’t imagine what this would do on ice in winter as it hits other vehicles because it couldn’t stop.

9,000 lbs would crush nearly everything in its path.


43 posted on 02/19/2022 5:02:17 PM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; JustaTech
A little over half of the power in my all-electric, two-story home comes from my solar panels. As it is it'll pay for itself in about 10 years. This isn't to "save the earth" or any other such Dim nonsense. Quite the opposite -- it's to provide my budget a partial hedge against the Dims controlling us through sky high energy prices -- something they do to make the rest of us pay a tithe to their mother gaia cult.

If I get an EV the total cost of the EV and my solar system will pay for itself in 12 years (assuming I'm as right on my assumptions of the EV that I'm interested in as I was on my solar system). If I get an EV, I'm already thinking about upgrading my solar system to produce 85% to 90% of all the power I need (for both my now all-electric house and the EV), assuming I keep driving ~200 miles per week. Doing so would make the entire project pay for itself in 14 years (not as good as the 12 years of buying the EV without upgrading my solar system). But that assumes only a 3% inflation rate of power prices and gasoline prices (which I'd save by not having to buy gas at least for that vehicle) and natural gas (which I now save by converting my gas appliances to all electric).

I get your point about the comparative efficiencies of different energy sources. But to me that's academic if the Dims keep doing like they're doing, and like they openly state they'll do even more of. The ultimate in energy efficiency is how much of it I can do myself without breaking the bank, so that it'll be one less way the Dims control me and my family.

44 posted on 02/19/2022 5:07:08 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Reily

I think that is more realistic than 15%, frankly.

People always make the argument that the motors in the cars are 90% efficient, but they forget to take away those T&D losses and the thermal efficiency losses at the power plant.


45 posted on 02/19/2022 5:07:41 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If truckers quit their jobs, society would collapse. If politicians quit their jobs...HALLELUJAH!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Of course. The whole point behind green cars is to make cars so expensive that everyone but wealthy, left-wing urbanites rides buses or drives teensy-tiny plastic cars.

Making a macho EV truck causes hideous cognitive dissonance.


46 posted on 02/19/2022 5:09:34 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: JustaTech

Thermal efficiency of diesel engine is around 42%

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/engine-the

Coal power plants have thermal efficiency of 45.5%

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0196890415007657

Factor in transmission losses and the electric car is less efficient.


47 posted on 02/19/2022 5:14:15 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: dragnet2
The battery pack alone weighs 2,923 lb

When you go to AutoZone for a new battery will the guy behind the counter install it for free?

48 posted on 02/19/2022 5:21:37 PM PST by immadashell (New Planned Parenthood slogan: Black Babies’ Lives Don't Matter!c)
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To: All

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They are anticipating being able to sell loans for New Battery Packs, packaged with 17k for disposing of old 3,000 pound battery pack.

People don’t know what they’re getting into.

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49 posted on 02/19/2022 5:26:29 PM PST by AnthonySoprano (‘’)
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To: dragnet2

IKR? I’d hate to imagine what one of these things spontaneously combusting would do like inside a garage. Seems like it would be almost impossible to extinguish in any reasonable time.


50 posted on 02/19/2022 5:26:36 PM PST by Gaffer
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If your Dealer lives in Hollywood and you’re name is Hunter Biden, it’s all good.

If you’re leaving your Service level job and hoping to retire, where the 40k for the new Batteries and disposal fees is quite another issue.

Hint: Joe wants you to ride a Bus.


51 posted on 02/19/2022 5:31:06 PM PST by AnthonySoprano (‘’)
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To: Tell It Right

“About 68% of nickel is recyclable.”

Also cheap used batteries will be very useful. A Tesla battery after 10 years of use goes down to about 70% its original capacity and is ready for retirement.

But what if you don’t need the same energy density as in a car? Plug those cheap used batteries into the grid for the next 20 years.

If EVs take off, all of a sudden the problem of cheap energy storage is solved.


52 posted on 02/19/2022 5:37:06 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: SpaceBar

“and starts at $79,995”

Not bad. At that price it may just make sense for me to buy one. Not to drive it, of course, but to use its 250 kwh to store power from my home solar system. Basically, a low price battery, far cheaper than a Tesla PowerWall, for example (less than half the price).

Of course I won’t tell my friends that I don’t drive it, but I will show it to them, just for bragging rights.


53 posted on 02/19/2022 5:41:32 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: billorites

“None of this retarded EV nonsense will end well.”

I feel posts like this show why conservatives are losing control of the world.

Why are almost all the billionaires leftists? It’s because they have an optimistic view of technology changing the planet.

Too many political conservatives are also technological conservatives. We scoff at the changes that are coming. We don’t start or invest in the innovative companies leaving everything from media to the auto industry in the hands of leftists.


54 posted on 02/19/2022 5:42:22 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: Renfrew

“Too many political conservatives are also technological conservatives. We scoff at the changes that are coming.”

We leave the predication of ‘changes that are coming’ to fortune tellers, since most of the time they are wrong.


55 posted on 02/19/2022 5:46:53 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone.)
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To: Renfrew

Repeal the laws of physics and you’re right.


56 posted on 02/19/2022 5:54:50 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Renfrew

“We scoff at the changes that are coming. “

No, Sunshine, we scoff at stupid ideas because we are educated and experienced. We are wise. We know better.


57 posted on 02/19/2022 5:57:30 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Renfrew

When I bought my solar system for my house I strong considered used EV batteries for my solar backup. There are already vendors selling them, and at a reasonable price. The catch is that the warranty on those is only a year, while my new ones have a 19-year warranty.


58 posted on 02/19/2022 6:05:53 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: CodeToad

“No, Sunshine, we scoff at stupid ideas because we are educated and experienced. We are wise. We know better.”

You sure abut that? How many leftists are now millionaires because they bought Tesla 10 years ago. How many conservatives are still poor because they invested in gold?

Part of wisdom is learning from mistakes we made and correcting them.


59 posted on 02/19/2022 6:18:20 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: Ikeon

—”Hit the accelerator instead of the brake by accident, or ON PURPOSE,”

About 1983 in front of the AT&T building, Naperville Il, some jamoke picked up his buddy in a Ferrari and hammered it.

I believe he tripped it on the curb because it landed upside down in the bushes a few feet off the ground.

The Ferrari probably weighed about the same as the Hummer battery.


60 posted on 02/19/2022 6:30:03 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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