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GMC Hummer EV's Weight Shows GM Completely Missed the Point With EVs
Auto evolution ^ | 19 Feb 2022 | Gustavo Henrique Ruffo

Posted on 02/19/2022 3:25:07 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

The massive electric pickup truck made some headlines these days because of its enormous weight. It already had raised concerns from safety specialists frightened with what a 9,063 pounds (4,103 kilograms) accelerating from 0 to 60 mph (97 kph) in 3 seconds could represent in traffic.

The battery pack alone weighs 2,923 lb (1,326 kg). It has a usable capacity of 212.7 kWh. Car and Driver calculated its gross capacity, and that’s 246.8 kWh. We have already mentioned it weighs as much as compact cars such as the Toyota Corolla ...

... The Rivian R1T achieves a 70 MPGe rating, which is 49% superior to what the GMC EV presents.

(Excerpt) Read more at autoevolution.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Humor; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; hummer
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To: brianr10

Except for the “hybrid” part.


21 posted on 02/19/2022 3:53:09 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: UNGN
Diesel electric Hybrid

This. Would be the best if both worlds. Diesel generator tuned for efficiency and electric motors at all four corners.

22 posted on 02/19/2022 3:59:32 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: UNGN

Agreed, worthless for me. I’d have to strip my camper bare - like it came off the lot - to get down to 5000. Then to get to a favorite campground in the mountains I’d have to stop 3 time for a nearly 0% to 100% charge. A half day run would turn into an all day ordeal. Maybe even a two day run. Then there would be one more charge when I got there, so I could run to the grocery store to lay in provisions. Of course anything unused at the end of the trip would have to be thrown out to save weight.


23 posted on 02/19/2022 4:02:09 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Vaccine mandates: they are not about health, they are about obedience.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You have to allow for the vastly greater efficiency of an electric motor compared to ICE. Most of your liquid fuel turns into waste heat, but the vast majority of your battery charge turns into go.


24 posted on 02/19/2022 4:02:28 PM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I remain more & more convinced that pure electric vehicles will never be the norm. Too limiting. What is wrong with a Hybrid vehicle? I think hybrid electrics, particularly plug in hybrid electrics are the answer u to bridge us to a time when battery technology increases t o the point a battery is smaller & charges in less than 15 minutes.


25 posted on 02/19/2022 4:04:32 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign! )
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To: UNGN

Yup!

Been doing it with trains for decades


26 posted on 02/19/2022 4:07:54 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign! )
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To: Jim from C-Town

So if the nut case tree huggers were to get their way all cars would run on batteries. Fast forward ten years. Where do we dispose of the batteries? Pluto?


27 posted on 02/19/2022 4:13:28 PM PST by KierkegaardMAN (I never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man.)
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To: Ikeon

28 posted on 02/19/2022 4:16:31 PM PST by moovova
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To: moovova

There were state laws on the books for decades that the newfangled horseless carriage automobiles had to have a person go ahead of them as they entered any town or village and wave a warning flag in the street following by the arrival. Horses and people still were afraid of them.


29 posted on 02/19/2022 4:21:33 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: moovova

Crash mayhem ....

You can admit one thing; pretty good quality dash cam for the video.


30 posted on 02/19/2022 4:24:24 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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In all of the decades and hundreds of thousands of miles 4 wheeling across Nevada, Utah, and Arizona in my ‘66 landcruiser, I have only seen one dude tooling around in a Humvee


31 posted on 02/19/2022 4:27:31 PM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: moovova
"...9,063 pounds accelerating from 0 to 60 mph in 3 seconds..."

Given the specs above and assuming 100% efficiencies, it requires about 660 horsepower sustained over that three seconds to do it. Car and Driver says this thing weighs in at 1000 hp, basically an absolute monster.
32 posted on 02/19/2022 4:30:06 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: JustaTech

Sorry, that argument doesn’t wash. Auto ICE are 35% efficient. The best coal plants are 40% efficient. Gas turbine combined cycles are 65% efficient. Electricity transmission and distribution losses are 10% to 15%. If you are making electricity by burning fuel, you have to take the thermal efficiency losses in the ICE or in the power plant providing the electricity to the EV.

There are two ways to avoid that. Number one is the impossible solar / wind scenario that will never, ever power a reliable power system. Number two is large scale nuclear power. If you want EVs, you need massive nuclear plant construction. There are no two ways about it.


33 posted on 02/19/2022 4:30:17 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (If truckers quit their jobs, society would collapse. If politicians quit their jobs...HALLELUJAH!)
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To: moovova

and starts at $79,995


34 posted on 02/19/2022 4:31:19 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: KierkegaardMAN
It's not only the disposal. The manufacturing of batteries is highly detrimental to the environment.
35 posted on 02/19/2022 4:36:37 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign! )
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To: Jim from C-Town

Try imagining driving your EV home on a rainy night, you put in the garage attached to your house, plug in the recharger, tuck your kids in their beds and then go to sleep.


36 posted on 02/19/2022 4:45:07 PM PST by allendale
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I’ve seen papers with estimates of transmission and distribution losses as high as 25%.


37 posted on 02/19/2022 4:48:05 PM PST by Reily
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To: DUMBGRUNT

None of this retarded EV nonsense will end well.


38 posted on 02/19/2022 4:48:23 PM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Jacquerie

If one of those catch fire in your garage, they’ll need a squadron of Borade bombers to put it out.


39 posted on 02/19/2022 4:53:00 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: KierkegaardMAN

About 68% of nickel is recyclable.


40 posted on 02/19/2022 4:55:19 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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