Posted on 02/12/2022 2:53:31 AM PST by MarvinStinson
There is good research on this, and the results are not good.
Sick and evil. How can a woman carry a baby and then hand it over to two faggots to abuse?
It’s all about her, of course. She wasn’t even his mother.
Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."
Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.
Leviticus niv
18:22 Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
20:13 If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable.
They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them;
they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it.
Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.
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2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight.
They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
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Ezekiel 16:49-50 "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom:
She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
They were haughty and did detestable things before me.
Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.
But there IS hope!!!
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Well, isn’t that special.
Genesis 19 King James Version
1 And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;
2 And he said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's house, and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and go on your ways. And they said, Nay; but we will abide in the street all night.
3 And he pressed upon them greatly; and they turned in unto him, and entered into his house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they did eat.
4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
Disgusting.
This is where I find it interesting....! Chapter 18 calls them “men “...save for the third “man” which in KJV, is referred to in the chapter as “The Lord!”
Verse 1 and verse 15 in Chapter 19 calls them angels but in the rest of the chapter, verses16, 12, and 16...they are referred to as “men”.
Thus my statement..” We assume they were angels but perhaps they were angels of limited knowledge and function. The Bible doesn’t actually call them “angels” per se.”
I had noted the use of the english term “men” in addition to the use of the terms “angels” so my statement should have been better crafted to have read...”Genesis 19 refers to them both as angels and as men” As to why the Hebrew that Moses recorded the story in was thus translated by scholars the way it was in KJV points to things in the spiritual dimensions being quite different than we could ever imagine.
Now better scholars might be able to explain the language peculiarities of the interchanging of the terms “men and angels” in chapter 19...perhaps some type of difference in the way 17th century English is used vs the way we understand English in the 21st.. I can consult a “Strongs” I guess to look at the way both terms are treated in the hebrew to English translations. My own view is to think of them as agents of God sent to do a mission, something more than men however, even angels in an elevated sense. We received the initial story as Moses received it and recorded it, from the Tribal narratives and from the inspiration of God as it moved upon him. Moses knew about angels of course, his writings in the first 5 books mention them multiple times. Why chapter 19 mentions the “agents” in question, “interchangeably” as “men” and “angels” might just come down to styles of language and translation that shouldn’t diminish the status of the “men” as being anything but heavenly beings of some status. If so, I will endure the public boxing and unstopping of my spiritual ears.
As for your other postings and Bible passages to me about the evils of homosexuality and the sins of Sodom....I have no disagreement with. It’s a message better sent to half of the people in our US legislative branches iof the house and the senate!
Verse 10,12 and 16 in Chapter 19 refers to them as “men”. As did the entire chapter 18.(save for the third “man” that Moses records as being “The Lord”).(”Before Abraham was...”, said Christ, “I AM!”)
Ref:”
Verse 1 and verse 15 in Chapter 19 calls them angels but in the rest of the chapter, verses16, 12, and 16...they are referred to as “men”.”
Caught the mistake too late.
At least there is no ambiguity over THIS verse:
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.
It’s ‘mistakes’ that get more of the Word out to folks!!
GOD bless ‘em!
The fag spin is that the Sodom men were 'inhospitable'.
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