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Can correcting micronutrient deficiencies help treat heart failure? (Yes: Iron, selenium, zinc, copper, and Co-Q10)
Medical Xpress / Journal of Internal Medicine ^ | Nov. 9, 2022 | Nils Bomer, Ph.D. et al

Posted on 02/09/2022 8:11:08 PM PST by ConservativeMind

A review published in the Journal of Internal Medicine provides convincing evidence that micronutrients—including iron, selenium, zinc, copper, and coenzyme Q10—can impact the function of cardiac cells' energy-producing mitochondria to contribute to heart failure.

The findings suggest that micronutrient supplementation could represent an effective treatment for heart failure.

"Micronutrient deficiency has a high impact on mitochondrial energy production and should be considered an additional factor in the heart failure equation, moving our view of the failing heart away from "an engine out of fuel" to "a defective engine on a path to self-destruction," said co–lead author Nils Bomer, Ph.D., of the University Medical Center Groningen, in The Netherlands.

(Excerpt) Read more at medicalxpress.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: egfr; heartfailure; hearthealth; kidney; tocotrienols
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There are blood and hair tests that can help you find out if you are low or high in these elements, but a run down through your normal eating pattern, mapping it to online nutrition sources, would do a good job, too.

A supplement can help. Do note that people who eat a fair amount of red meat or some types of beans (black) may have plenty (or too much) of iron already.

1 posted on 02/09/2022 8:11:08 PM PST by ConservativeMind
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This potentially high volume ping list is for health articles and studies which describe something you or your doctor, when informed, may be able to implement for your benefit.

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2 posted on 02/09/2022 8:11:31 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

You might want to test these. You don’t want too much iron or solenium. Especially for men too much iron can be detrimental. And too much zinc and copper can throw your other minerals off. They share transport system.


3 posted on 02/09/2022 8:15:57 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: ConservativeMind

I have found that a very beneficial mineral for controlling hypertension is potassium. Everyone mentions magnesium, and CoQ-10 (which are both great), but potassium is seldom mentioned, and it has worked wonders for me. Potassium also “cancels” sodium chloride.


4 posted on 02/09/2022 9:13:47 PM PST by matthew fuller (Resist this coercion like it’s slavery. It is. Kevin Homer, MD)
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To: matthew fuller
I have made an effort to increase both my potassium and, strangely, my sodium sources, in the past half year.

Keto forces large amounts of sodium out of you and you have to replenish it.

Low sodium V-8 or making your own tomato juice from tomato paste are inexpensive ways to get more potassium. For those interested, having fat (olive oil, etc.) with tomato juice can increase by 5-fold the absorption of lycopene.

5 posted on 02/09/2022 9:22:27 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: matthew fuller

Thank you for your post!


6 posted on 02/09/2022 9:54:19 PM PST by NCSUgirl4ever
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To: ConservativeMind

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7 posted on 02/09/2022 11:55:45 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW. )
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To: ConservativeMind

Here is “Ted” from EarthClinic.com, biochemist from Thailand:
https://ted.earthclinic.com/cures/heart-disease-prevention.html

Info from the well-known Earthclinic site:
https://www.earthclinic.com/

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Ted’s Q&A

Supplements for Heart Disease and Kidney Issues
Posted by K (Anonymous) on 01/22/2013

What things do you recommend my friend should be doing to help his kidney and heart disease?
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Bangkok, Thailand
01/22/2013
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Heart disease is usually caused by high fat levels in the liver which goes to blood vessels and restricts circulation. It can also be negatively affected by a low immune system which makes the circulation restricted, as most pathogen build up is due to high blood glucose and fructose consumption This leads to high blood viscosity due to hemaglutin that is secreted by pathogens. A couple of remedies will help circulation. These include alkalization via baking soda, bromelain to break down blood clotting proteins produced by pathogens, and N acetyl cysteine which is precursor to glutathione. Zinc will eliminate pathogens, improving the circulation. These natural supplements will improve the circulation, helping the heart condition within a week. As to heart muscles, three things: B2 (a precursor of CoQ10), CoQ10, and vitamin E 200 iu a day, will help the most.

Kidney disease is actually caused by three things in the following order: high blood sugar, high blood pressure, and the use of pain killers that damage the kidney. To help save the kidneys you must eliminate the three causes. Also, your friend should take Assam tea and essential amino acids—threonine and BCAA being the most important. Excessive uric acid does not only cause problems of the kidney but is a good predictor of heart disease, as the tiny uric crystals accumulate in capillaries of the heart and microscopic stones that limit circulation too. The best way to reduce homocysteine by approximately 1/2 or 1/3 is supplementation of trimethylglycine, 2000 mg x 3 a day over one month, which also improves heart disease.

The cause of high uric acid is acidity and high blood sugar, which for me is defined as over 90 mg/dL, low water intake, and especially fructose from fruits, honey, and fructose in processed foods.

Ted

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Note: Spent night at Holiday Inn last night.
The above is for research purposes only.
DO OWN RESEARCH. N.


8 posted on 02/10/2022 1:11:20 AM PST by Norski (Justin Trudeau has tested positive for Coward-19.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Bttt. Thanx for posting


9 posted on 02/10/2022 4:26:58 AM PST by thinden
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CM: Thank you for adding me to your natural health ping list.

I have a specific health concern that perhaps someone can help me with. I am an 83 year old woman in generally good health. I have been talking supplements for 50 years sparked by fear of developing varicose veins after childbirth and my mother’s history of severe vericosities and ankle ulcers resulting in her vein stripping surgery at age 45. Fortunately Adelle Davis’s books provided me with the information to avoid all that. Most recently I have reversed my cataract development with additional supplements.

The problem that concerns me now is my kidneys. Kaiser Permanente assigned doctor has expressed concern about my kidneys for several years. Annual blood tests for the past 4 years show my GFR fluctuating between 33 and 37. This says I am in a risk category. I am wondering if some of the supplements I take daily are causing this problem. I watch my urine and try to keep the color pale yellow with enough water. I have shrunk 2 inches to 5’3” but slowed it down with more calcium/magnesiium and boron. While caring for my late husband’s long dying from Alzheimer’s my weight crept up to 165 and in the year after his death I dieted (convential) down to 155lb. Then I discovered Atkins and dieted down to the 130’s. My stable pre pregnancy weight in my 20s was 123 lb. In the past 4 years my weight has fluctuated from 130s to 150 depending on stress level and holiday feasting. I am now at 140 lbs. My usual diet is mostly low carb vegetables, modest meat, fowl, seafood, cheese and eggs. modest amounte of whole grains, seeds and nuts, brown rice, flax seed, chia, quinja, millet, beans and garbanzos. Either no milk or lots of milk depending on whether I am doing Atkins or not. Ancestors had dairy farms. At any rate the test numbers for GFR have not seemed to change much with diet.

So I wonder if one of my many kinds of supplements could be causing this problem or if this is just heredity. My brother has had a kidney stone in the past. My parentst lived to 90 and had more health problems than I do. I have been more disciplined with my supplements. All but one of my mother’s 5 siblings died in their low 90s. My paternal grandfather lived to 98. All but one of his siblings lived to 90s and one to 103. I have elevated cholesterol but have resisted Lipitor. My KP doctor no longer mentions it or my kidney issue which we have discussed with no recommendations from him. I don’t DO excercise, but live in a 4 story house with kitchen and laundry in basement and bedroom on 3rd floor. In growing season I drive 180 miles to beach cottage and mow a large lawn an hour a day over several days with gas mower. I also do carpentry and other house renovation activities.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.


10 posted on 02/10/2022 9:49:25 AM PST by gleeaikin (,Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin

Just a thought, try and see what happens if you increase your water intake.


11 posted on 02/10/2022 10:29:14 AM PST by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: gleeaikin
Without knowing the list of supplements, it's difficult to know, but, yes, some supplements or combinations of supplements can be an issue.

This is a recent thread with a few items offered:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4034895/posts

Reduce weight, consider tocotrienols, and senolytics might help.

12 posted on 02/10/2022 11:52:41 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: gleeaikin
Frankly, your eGFR really shows you need to be quite careful about your supplements and to not over do it.

What is your serum creatinine? It looks like losing weight and taking 200 mg of EVNol SupraBio, twice a day, might so a lot to improve your kidney situation, according to the study at the bottom of the prior link I gave.

Can you post your supplement list? You might do well to cut down to just the basics.

13 posted on 02/10/2022 12:02:30 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: gleeaikin

Don’t worry about your creatinine level—I can computer it back from what you already gave.


14 posted on 02/10/2022 12:07:23 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: gleeaikin
Do you have high blood pressure or diabetes/blood sugar/insulin issues?

It looks like your creatinine stays between .82 and .94. Those aren't terrible, but you can bring that down. Do note the eGFR is an estimation at uses your age to bring down the number:

https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/professionals/clinical-tools-patient-management/kidney-disease/laboratory-evaluation/glomerular-filtration-rate/estimating

That eGFR number can be off seemingly by up to 30%, but your creatinine should be accurate, until it gets rather low. The eGFR appears to be less accurate for “elderly” people, that reference states.

If taking the tocotrienols, consider stopping your Vitamin E sources, as Vitamin E interferes with tocotrienol absorption quite a bit. Tocotrienols are likely better absorbed and more useful than Vitamin E, according to recent research. If taking Vitamin E, take it at least six hours apart from tocotrienols.

That study in the other thread on tocotrienols is with a form that has some Vitaimin E still with it. An even better, more pure form of exclusively tocotrienols is DeltaGold, made from annatto rather than red palm oil, but I'd say stay with the EVnol form to mirror the study.

We personally take the Swanson Tocotrienols, which are DeltaGold.

Apparently the study used “200mg EVNol SupraBio” twice daily.

We have used this for that EVNol SupraBio form:

Healthy Origins Tocomin SupraBio Tocotrienols

Each of those provides 312.5 mg of EVNol SupraBio, so taking two a day would give over 600 mg of EVNol SupraBio, but only 100 mg of actual tocotrienols.

We currently take 300 mg of tocotrienols a day, to see how that may positively affect us (my wife and I).

So that others can see the tocotrienol study more easily, I post it here:

https://tocotrienol.org/en/red-palm-oil-derived-supplement-may-help-diabetic-kidney-disease/

15 posted on 02/10/2022 12:54:13 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

**including iron, selenium, zinc, copper, and coenzyme Q10**

Take all of these if you can.

Also garlic to help the heart.


16 posted on 02/10/2022 1:03:56 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: saintgermaine

** increase your water intake.**

Good for keeping your blood pressure lower.


17 posted on 02/10/2022 1:07:54 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: gleeaikin

People on keto diets have kidney problems a lot more often. I suggest stopping it and consuming sugar until feeling full.


18 posted on 02/10/2022 1:10:43 PM PST by TTFX
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To: gleeaikin

Either no milk or lots of milk depending on whether I am doing Atkins or not.

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Foods have more vitamin a than we need. Milk sellers threatened by the U.S. government add vitamin a to skim milk. I suggest not consuming foods with added vitamin a. Excess vitamin a causes kidney problems.


19 posted on 02/10/2022 1:16:03 PM PST by TTFX
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To: gleeaikin

CORRECTION of your eGFR:

I did something wrong in my initial calculation. Your creatinine appears to be between 1.35 and 1.52.

I apologize! Had my attention split.


20 posted on 02/10/2022 1:18:26 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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