Posted on 02/09/2022 7:46:36 AM PST by Red Badger
And sorry, this is not one of your threads that you can censor others from.
***Hey, I just got slapped on a Qanonsense thread. It was protected by the moderator and there wasn’t even any notification. At least my LENR threads give you skeptopaths a heads up right off the bat, every time.
Cute but “25 ORDERS of MAGNITUDE” greater than nothing
***See now, you aint readin’ the article because obviously CHF is getting SUMTHIN not NUTHIN. And Cold Fusion gets 25 orders of magnitude MORE SUMTHIN than what this money-drain CHF stuff does.
in over 30 years is still nothing.
***NASA and ARPA-E beg to differ. I think I’ll listen to them rather than a skeptopath.
NASA Lattice Confinement Fusion Gas Cycling Experiments
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4034061/posts
ARPA-E, Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions Workshop October 21, 2021: CONCLUSIONS
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4033042/posts
I’m 67.
They told me that 40 years ago, too................
That is what I said.
A joule is 1 watt output for 1 second. A Watt is one joule over one second. They’re the same.
Typically, you would use watt to measure output like we do horsepower. Things like joules and food-pounds measure the cumulative output over time.
You live in a bubble that allows no skepticism of very dubious assumptions and “data”. I look over every one of the threads you start but of course make no comments as you have spelled out. LENR is something that all of us would love to be true and supportive of, yet it is the same nonsense year after year. There is no actual comparison between the actual researchers and physicists still throwing money at “hot fusion” and the grifters hoping to cash in on the gullibility of others. i.e. Andrea Rossi and friends.
There are “25 ORDERS of MAGNITUDE” more studies and dollars supporting climate change theories than LENR and yet it also is a hoax not supported by unaltered data.
You live in a bubble
***Nonsense. I’m here on this “unprotected” thread, aint I? I post to you skeptopaths that ya aint welcome on those threads. I invite y’all to open your own skeptopathy threads and a few times some of ya have even done so.
that allows no skepticism of very dubious assumptions and “data”.
***If you jerks had bothered to focus on the data and assumptions, we would have the kind of discussions we craved — scientific debate — but instead you chose to flock like seagulls so buzz off [from those threads]. This thread is unprotected so you can act all ya want like a seagull.
I look over every one of the threads you start but of course make no comments as you have spelled out.
***That is kind of you. I appreciate it. I may even withdraw some of my criticism towards you. The best course of action — what I would do in your shoes — is to open your own parallel thread. Then it’s not “protected” and you can knock us around all ya want. Unfortunately, that course of action is not available to us anti-qtards [because the admin moderator is one of them] so you have a much higher level of privilege than I do. Might as well enjoy the privilege.
LENR is something that all of us would love to be true and supportive of, yet it is the same nonsense year after year.
***If it is nonsense then open up a counter-thread for each technical discussion and point out where the nonsense IS. You DON’T because you can’t.
There is no actual comparison between the actual researchers and physicists still throwing money at “hot fusion” and the grifters hoping to cash in on the gullibility of others.
***Bullshiite. And my calculation shows it’s 25 orders of magnitude bullshiite.
i.e. Andrea Rossi and friends.
***I’ve been through this again and again. All those >150 replications were from the Who’s Who of Electrochemistry and it was YEARS before Rossi showed up. Asked & Answered: Rossi Rossi Rossi https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4000502/posts?page=3#3
There are “25 ORDERS of MAGNITUDE” more studies and dollars
***The hell there is.
supporting climate change theories than LENR
***Go ahead. Produce just a few of them. There isn’t even THREE orders of magnitude more studies. You’re just a skeptopath.
and yet it also is a hoax not supported by unaltered data.
***Now you’re a skeptopath going off into the weeds.
Your constant name calling and other silliness makes my points better than I ever could. I noted that there were far more studies supporting the global warming hoax than studies supporting LENR and you dispute even this? In your case the grit that I am providing is not helping you to produce a pearl just the typical muck that we find on your threads.
The most impressive part of the visit was the flywheel room. The flywheels were spun up over time and would later power the reactor during experiment.
PPPL bid for the ITER project. They lost out to the Europeans. Mostly, because PPPL did not get strong support from DoE. DoE is putting its eggs in the National Ignition Facility in Livermore. It uses lasers.
Your constant name calling
***If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, sounds like a duck and it aint a goose, it’s probably a duck. If it looks like a skeptopath, walks like a skeptopath, posts like a skeptopath, flies like a skeptopath, sounds like a skeptopath and it aint a sincere science-oriented truthseeker, it’s probably a skeptopath. I used to think name calling was uncalled for until I read through the new testament and saw how often Jesus did it. So, take that up with Him.
and other silliness makes my points better than I ever could.
***Cool, then you’re doing us a favor by staying away from those threads.
I noted that there were far more studies supporting the global warming hoax than studies supporting LENR and you dispute even this?
***I dispute 22 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE worth of it. That’s like saying an amoeba has enough kinetic energy to knock 2 stars off their orbit. That’s how far off you are, science-boy. That, and throwing AGW into the mix is simply a whataboutism.
In your case the grit that I am providing is not helping you to produce a pearl
***OHHH, THAT’s How YOU See it! Fascinating. Then go ahead and produce your grit on your own thread. How many times do I need to remind you that this option is open and available to you? If you were REALLY interested in knocking down the supposed bad science, you’da been doing that all along. But that is not your interest — your interest is in seagulling and skeptopathy.
just the typical muck that we find on your threads.
***A lot less muck when you’re not around. So... thanks.
Even you agreed there was sumthin there at one point, before Rossi came along. LENR was worthwhile before Rossi came along and will be worthwhile long after he’s gone.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2435697/posts?page=10#10
To: DesertRhino
“So if you can do fusion and not create heat, whats the point?”
Cold Fusion creates heat. That is the point. Hot fusion takes place at incredibly high temperatures and pressures such as in an H-bomb.
10 posted on 1/23/2010, 1:39:05 PM by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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Which comment simply displays your ignorance of the subject.
Another budget funding cycle...
Another amazing possible breakthrough...
The game continues...
Future retirements are at stake...
Rolling, rolling, rolling...
Keep those dollars rolling...
Worked for me...
It was sarcasm, but then you knew that.
The closest thing to eternal life on Earth is a government program....................
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Thank you very much for finding my comment from 12 years ago before I eventually concluded through years of following stories and leads that “cold fusion” or LENR as we now refer to it seems to be a dead end. What eventually are revealed to be chemical reactions or other ways of surreptitiously adding energy to what appears to be a bonified exothermic process have filled us with hope on numerous occasions. Then there is “testing” by various means to indicate byproducts of fusion are present. But over time it all seems to eventually end up the same way... either intentional or unintentional “hoaxary”.
I actually do salute true believers such as yourself and Wonder Warthog who likely will never come to the same conclusion. But I cannot go along with it at this point. And since the two of you allow no discussion on your threads from skeptical individuals there is no chance that you will be the ones to convince me otherwise. But I am typically content to let the two of you and your minions carry on, with the secret sliver of hope that somehow there is a chance that at some point your faith will be rewarded.
I am assuming that you are already familiar with the links found in the following PowerPoint from Professor David J. Nagel of George Washington University presented at the ARPA-E Workshop on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions this last October. It is a good and hopeful presentation on LENR found at the first link.
https://arpa-.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2021LENR_workshop_Nagel.pdf
Links within:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/LENRConferenceProceedings.pdf
https://www.iscmns.org/CMNS/publications.htm.
http://coldfusioncommunity.net/jcmns/
https://iscmns.org/work14/index.htm
https://iscmns.org/conferences/25thrussianconference/
https://www.iscmns.org/library.htm.
http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/whoarewe.html
http://news.newenergytimes.net/.
https://theworld.com/~mica/cft.html
http://coldfusioncommunity.net/portal/
https://www.academia.edu/17964553/Condensed_Matter_Nuclear_Science_October_2015
ARPA has recently (this year) come to the opposite conclusion, that LENR is real and worthy of funding.
I know that. But whether the conclusion is based on faith in the viability of the process or the desire to channel federal funding to ARPA associated researchers is an open question. I always have hope that you and Kevmo will be proven to be correct.
What eventually are revealed to be chemical reactions or other ways of surreptitiously adding energy to what appears to be a bonified exothermic process
***The first ~one hundred or so replications of the PFAHE were by the Who’s Who of Electrochemistry, who were thoroughly familiar with the known chemical reactions. I will take THEIR word over the anonymous internet poster, thank you very much.
have filled us with hope on numerous occasions.
***These hot fusion boys try the same thing but their scale is on the hundreds of $Billions pissed away.
Then there is “testing” by various means to indicate byproducts of fusion are present.
***Yes, REAL TESTING, not “testing”. You went from an open minded poster to a seagull because you found a bandwagon to jump on.
But over time it all seems to eventually end up the same way... either intentional or unintentional “hoaxary”.
***Complete bullshiite. You are calling every nuclear result from LENR cells hoaxary. You have no evidence for it. Guys like Yoshiaki Arata who RAN Japan’s nuclear program. I’ll believe guys like that over an anonymous internet poster giving no evidence for his belief, thank you very much.
I actually do salute true believers such as yourself and Wonder Warthog who likely will never come to the same conclusion.
***Certainly not by conversing with seagulls because you’re notoriously dishonest.
But I cannot go along with it at this point.
***Obviously. There’s that nice comfy bandwagon for you seagulls to jump on. I get it.
And since the two of you allow no discussion on your threads from skeptical individuals
***We allow no skeptopathy. There’s a difference. You pukes filled up the threads with insults, zingers, ridiculous inapplicable analogies, and falsehoods. Were we to encounter a truthful skeptic, we could make some headway. But none of you are truthful, you’re just there to provoke.
there is no chance that you will be the ones to convince me otherwise.
***I really don’t care about convincing skeptopaths. So it looks like we’re in good shape with you having the right to open your own threads on the subject and throw around your seagull poop for everyone to see.
But I am typically content to let the two of you and your minions carry on, with the secret sliver of hope that somehow there is a chance that at some point your faith will be rewarded.
***Then we are in good shape. You’re honoring the conditions of interaction here on FR. If you’re so convinced that ALL of it is fake, then open up a thread and say so, show us all HOW. Point out the scientific ERRORS. Do it on an experiment-by-experiment basis. None of the skeptopaths ever do that, they never focus on the science.
I am assuming that you are already familiar with the links found in the following PowerPoint from Professor David J. Nagel of George Washington University presented at the ARPA-E Workshop on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions this last October. It is a good and hopeful presentation on LENR found at the first link.
I’ve seen his name.
Branching Ratios for LENR
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4027703/posts
1/7/2022, 8:37:57 PM · by Kevmo · 2 replies
14th International Workshop on Anomalies in Hydrogen Loaded Metals — IWAHLM14, Page 28 ^ | August 2021 | David J. Nagel
Where and How LENR Occur
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4019599/posts
12/8/2021, 7:33:21 PM · by Kevmo · 14 replies
ICCF-23, The George Washington University ^ | June 2021 | David J. Nagel
Input Stimuli and Output Signals in LENR Experiments
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4010439/posts
11/6/2021, 4:11:03 PM · by Kevmo · 9 replies
Prof. David Nagel “LENR global impact will be historic”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2773704/posts
9/4/2011, 9:30:41 PM · by Kevmo · 54 replies
Cold Fusion Times ^ | Updated September 3, 2011 | Ruby Carat
George Washington University ^ | June 2021 | David J. Nagel
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