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To: Kevmo; Wonder Warthog
“Cold Fusion creates heat. That is the point. Hot fusion takes place at incredibly high temperatures and pressures such as in an H-bomb.”

Thank you very much for finding my comment from 12 years ago before I eventually concluded through years of following stories and leads that “cold fusion” or LENR as we now refer to it seems to be a dead end. What eventually are revealed to be chemical reactions or other ways of surreptitiously adding energy to what appears to be a bonified exothermic process have filled us with hope on numerous occasions. Then there is “testing” by various means to indicate byproducts of fusion are present. But over time it all seems to eventually end up the same way... either intentional or unintentional “hoaxary”.

I actually do salute true believers such as yourself and Wonder Warthog who likely will never come to the same conclusion. But I cannot go along with it at this point. And since the two of you allow no discussion on your threads from skeptical individuals there is no chance that you will be the ones to convince me otherwise. But I am typically content to let the two of you and your minions carry on, with the secret sliver of hope that somehow there is a chance that at some point your faith will be rewarded.

I am assuming that you are already familiar with the links found in the following PowerPoint from Professor David J. Nagel of George Washington University presented at the ARPA-E Workshop on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions this last October. It is a good and hopeful presentation on LENR found at the first link.

https://arpa-.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2021LENR_workshop_Nagel.pdf

Links within:

http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/LENRConferenceProceedings.pdf

https://www.iscmns.org/CMNS/publications.htm.

http://coldfusioncommunity.net/jcmns/

http://jcfrs.org/newe.html

https://iscmns.org/work14/index.htm

https://iscmns.org/conferences/25thrussianconference/

https://www.iscmns.org/library.htm.

http://www.infinite-energy.com/whoarewe/whoarewe.html

http://news.newenergytimes.net/.

https://theworld.com/~mica/cft.html

http://coldfusionnow.org/.

http://coldfusioncommunity.net/portal/

https://www.academia.edu/17964553/Condensed_Matter_Nuclear_Science_October_2015

https://www.lenr-forum.com/

57 posted on 02/10/2022 8:24:02 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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To: fireman15

ARPA has recently (this year) come to the opposite conclusion, that LENR is real and worthy of funding.


58 posted on 02/10/2022 8:46:12 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: fireman15

What eventually are revealed to be chemical reactions or other ways of surreptitiously adding energy to what appears to be a bonified exothermic process
***The first ~one hundred or so replications of the PFAHE were by the Who’s Who of Electrochemistry, who were thoroughly familiar with the known chemical reactions. I will take THEIR word over the anonymous internet poster, thank you very much.

have filled us with hope on numerous occasions.
***These hot fusion boys try the same thing but their scale is on the hundreds of $Billions pissed away.

Then there is “testing” by various means to indicate byproducts of fusion are present.
***Yes, REAL TESTING, not “testing”. You went from an open minded poster to a seagull because you found a bandwagon to jump on.

But over time it all seems to eventually end up the same way... either intentional or unintentional “hoaxary”.
***Complete bullshiite. You are calling every nuclear result from LENR cells hoaxary. You have no evidence for it. Guys like Yoshiaki Arata who RAN Japan’s nuclear program. I’ll believe guys like that over an anonymous internet poster giving no evidence for his belief, thank you very much.

I actually do salute true believers such as yourself and Wonder Warthog who likely will never come to the same conclusion.
***Certainly not by conversing with seagulls because you’re notoriously dishonest.

But I cannot go along with it at this point.
***Obviously. There’s that nice comfy bandwagon for you seagulls to jump on. I get it.

And since the two of you allow no discussion on your threads from skeptical individuals
***We allow no skeptopathy. There’s a difference. You pukes filled up the threads with insults, zingers, ridiculous inapplicable analogies, and falsehoods. Were we to encounter a truthful skeptic, we could make some headway. But none of you are truthful, you’re just there to provoke.

there is no chance that you will be the ones to convince me otherwise.
***I really don’t care about convincing skeptopaths. So it looks like we’re in good shape with you having the right to open your own threads on the subject and throw around your seagull poop for everyone to see.

But I am typically content to let the two of you and your minions carry on, with the secret sliver of hope that somehow there is a chance that at some point your faith will be rewarded.
***Then we are in good shape. You’re honoring the conditions of interaction here on FR. If you’re so convinced that ALL of it is fake, then open up a thread and say so, show us all HOW. Point out the scientific ERRORS. Do it on an experiment-by-experiment basis. None of the skeptopaths ever do that, they never focus on the science.

I am assuming that you are already familiar with the links found in the following PowerPoint from Professor David J. Nagel of George Washington University presented at the ARPA-E Workshop on Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions this last October. It is a good and hopeful presentation on LENR found at the first link.

I’ve seen his name.

Branching Ratios for LENR
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4027703/posts
1/7/2022, 8:37:57 PM · by Kevmo · 2 replies
14th International Workshop on Anomalies in Hydrogen Loaded Metals — IWAHLM14, Page 28 ^ | August 2021 | David J. Nagel

Where and How LENR Occur
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4019599/posts
12/8/2021, 7:33:21 PM · by Kevmo · 14 replies
ICCF-23, The George Washington University ^ | June 2021 | David J. Nagel

Input Stimuli and Output Signals in LENR Experiments
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4010439/posts
11/6/2021, 4:11:03 PM · by Kevmo · 9 replies

Prof. David Nagel “LENR global impact will be historic”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2773704/posts
9/4/2011, 9:30:41 PM · by Kevmo · 54 replies
Cold Fusion Times ^ | Updated September 3, 2011 | Ruby Carat
George Washington University ^ | June 2021 | David J. Nagel


60 posted on 02/10/2022 8:58:48 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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