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Progressives Who Want Joe Rogan Off Spotify Should Be Careful What They Wish For (Flying pigs alert)
Yahoo ^ | February 3, 2022 | Ben Burgis

Posted on 02/04/2022 5:59:54 AM PST by DoodleBob

...So should Spotify ban him and start cracking down on anything deemed to be “misinformation” by critics or company-employed fact-checkers? If you’re a socialist like me, or even if you just have political preferences that are substantially to the left of Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, I’d argue that advocating for escalated corporate censorship is playing with fire.

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Does the Joe Rogan Experience at times broadcast “bad” or “wrong” ideas to a massive audience? Undoubtedly it does. But there’s also subjectivity at play, and to ignore how such blurred lines for acceptable discourse could be weaponized against left-wing voices is a dangerous miscalculation.

Mainstream liberals have increasingly adopted the right-wing libertarian view that “free speech” only applies to actions carried out by the state, and that private businesses are free to censor as they please.

Many on the left have traditionally understood that ignoring the power wielded by private businesses, on the grounds that anything such they do is “voluntary,” is dangerously misguided.

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A common argument of late is that while people shouldn’t be censored for their “opinions,” it’s fine to censor them if they are objectively wrong about questions of “fact.”

The problem is that, in practice, all political disputes are at least partly disputes about facts....Realistically, it’s hard to imagine an intense political debate where the sides didn’t disagree about at least a few important facts. That means each side will always accuse the other of “misinformation.”

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Any progressive willing to weaken free speech norms for the sake of whatever positive impact shutting up Rogan might have in the short term, though, should think long and hard about how this movie is likely to end.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Music/Entertainment; Society
KEYWORDS: benburgis; joerogan; neilyoung; rumble; spotify
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To: dynachrome
It’s part of obtaining power.

I think it's more a part of clinging to the essentially-bogus "power" the worldwide Left has obtained by gaslighting and misleading over the past couple of years. The more the "pandemic" hysteria their bought-and-paid-for media has cultivated begins to recede, the more people are beginning to ask questions that are very inconvenient for them.

21 posted on 02/04/2022 6:56:32 AM PST by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: DoodleBob

now he’s done it. cancel ben burgis


22 posted on 02/04/2022 6:56:48 AM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: DoodleBob

“should think long and hard about how this movie is likely to end”

They do. And when they do they picture a leftist utopia where all dissent is rounded up and silences.


23 posted on 02/04/2022 7:44:27 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: DoodleBob

I had heard so much about this Joe Rogan, so I tried listening to “The Joe Rogan Experience”. A half dozen f-bombs in the first five minutes and no substance. No more for me.


24 posted on 02/04/2022 7:48:17 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ( “to defend themselves, they are using the same weapons with which they were struck.”Pope St. Pius X)
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To: DoodleBob

I was listening to Rogan and Jordan Peterson last night (on a long and rainy drive). Rogan has some unusual ideas, and he does not like Trump at all. Do libs realize this? They would love his ideas on Trump if they listened.

Do libs even listen to what they love to denigrate?

Rogan has also said that Michele Obama would be a great candidate in 2024 and that she would win. Another wild idea.

I like free thinkers.....that’s what Rogan is, whether we agree or not. Libs don’t like to think.


25 posted on 02/04/2022 8:19:34 AM PST by Republicanprofessor
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To: dynachrome

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
— William F. Buckley Jr.

“The right to speak freely does not include the right to be taken seriously. And it certainly doesn’t include the obligation that others must supply you with a platform.”
– Johan Norberg


26 posted on 02/04/2022 3:59:33 PM PST by hadit2here ("There are some ideas so preposterous, only an intellectual could believe them." -- George Orwell)
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To: mylife

Effing brilliant clip.

Brilliant.

L


27 posted on 02/04/2022 4:01:49 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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