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I just tried Shell’s EV charging hub — and it's not the future I want
Toms Guide ^ | 30 Jan 2022 | Tom Pritchard

Posted on 01/30/2022 10:32:05 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

A gas station-style forecourt isn't necessarily the best option

I’ve always been of the opinion that you should bring EV chargers to the people, rather than asking people to come to the chargers. But admittedly charging hubs aren’t very common, and until very recently they were all too far away to experience first hand.

But at the tail end of last year, Shell opened up its first EV charging hub in Fulham, in West London. It’s still pretty out of the way for me, and the trip involves driving into the heart of the U.K.’s busiest city from nearby Reading. But it’s not so far that I couldn’t check this out for myself, just in case I’ve been totally wrong about EV charging this whole time.

And yes, for those that didn’t know, Shell the oil company is also in the EV charging business. So is BP, which is all really weird to think about.

According to Shell the Fulham hub uses 100% renewable energy, with on-site solar panels contributing around a quarter of its needs.

It was a very painless experience, only really hampered by the fact the price was so high. £0.49 ($0.66). I’m used to rapid chargers being more expensive, but Shell Recharge is the most expensive I’ve ever seen. Back home a rapid charger will cost me £0.30 to £0.35 ($0.40 to $0.47) per kWh, depending on which company’s chargers I’m using. It’s not just London-centric inflation, either, since that is an all-too real problem in the English capital.

According to ZapMap, which lists the vast majority of available chargers, nearby rapid chargers were charging no more than £0.39 ($0.52) per kWh.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: charge; dev; displacedemissions; electionvehicle; electricvehicle; ev; expensive; impractical; inconvenient
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Come on, DUMBGRUNT, I know your googlefu is good enough to find electricity costs.

Try this one: https://www.eia.gov/electricity/state/


141 posted on 01/30/2022 1:45:02 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: kiryandil

“Plug EVERYONE in at night, and start charging. Electricity is magic, till it isn’t.”


Night time perfect time to plug EV’s in when electrical use is lower and they will plug them in on the weekend to charge for work on Monday and the rest of the week.

Per US Energy Admin:

The least amount of electricity is consumed at night when most people sleep. ... U.S. electricity consumption is generally lower on weekends and holidays than it is during the weekdays because many commercial offices are closed and less electricity is required for lighting and computer equipment.Feb 21, 2020

Today in Energy - US Energy Information Administration (EIA)


142 posted on 01/30/2022 1:45:44 PM PST by setter
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To: DUMBGRUNT

What pumps? gas pumps? Ever hear of a generator?


143 posted on 01/30/2022 1:45:57 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: TexasGator

“Wow! 75 mpg!”

Being the idiot that you are, I didn’t think you could do any math. Try again, F- on that comment.


144 posted on 01/30/2022 1:46:53 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: JBW1949

Should have asked him how many miles per hour he gets and what’s the maximum in ideal weather conditions.....


145 posted on 01/30/2022 1:49:30 PM PST by Hot Tabasco
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To: setter
Night time perfect time to plug EV’s in when electrical use is lower and they will plug them in on the weekend to charge for work on Monday and the rest of the week.

Smoking dope and posting is an ugly look.

146 posted on 01/30/2022 1:50:06 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: setter

“Show the link where I claim to support communism in any way.”

Typical liberal: Always backtracking when the spotlight shines on your own comments. ALL of your comments about economics are testimonies of your communism. All of them.


147 posted on 01/30/2022 1:50:28 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: kiryandil
AOC has it all figured out....


148 posted on 01/30/2022 1:52:44 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: qaz123

Will partially charging your battery every day of multiple times of day ruin the integrity of the battery like with the iphones?


149 posted on 01/30/2022 1:52:46 PM PST by Married with Children
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To: dfwgator

And there’s still room for four 1500-watt electric space heaters!!


150 posted on 01/30/2022 1:57:54 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kosciusko51

—”I still not sure why someone hasn’t built a hybrid where the gas motor only powers the battery, and is not part of the drive train. “

You may want to take a hard look at a Prius.

My wife has a 2015 Prius V, and I love it!
Unsure of other Prius generations.

Basically, the ICE does not drive the wheels, but there is an override in the event of a battery failure there is one speed where the ICE can drive the wheels.

Here is my Guru, this is for interested gearheads:
https://t.ly/8tBE


151 posted on 01/30/2022 1:58:28 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: setter

Generation has little to do with the distribution lines.
What was the population 30 years ago?
It also matters where one lives.


152 posted on 01/30/2022 1:58:35 PM PST by EEGator
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To: kiryandil

“The Watermelons [Green on the outside, Red on the inside] are just starting on banning the natural gas electrical power generation plants.They’re well-satisfied with the destruction of the nuclear, coal and hydroelectric power plant”


You do know most coal plants have been extended and there are 177 new natural pas power plants being built.

When are you going to learn the fossil fuel co’s and large co’s control the energy system this country and not the politicians?

Biden signed in 900 more well permits on PUBLIC GROUNDS in the first year 2021 than Trump did in 2017. 3557 total Biden signed in verus 2657 for Trump

Wait I was told here this would not happen. Try reading from other sources besides right wing sources that only preach doom and gloom to gin up readers and money..and yes the left does the same thing.

Under Biden the Marcellus utica gas region has pumped a record amount of natural gas in 2021 The most in it’s entire history

AM I GIVING BIDEN CREDIT??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. IT is the large co’s that control this country not the politcians.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10453597/Climate-activists-hit-Biden-issuing-drilling-permits-public-land-Trump.html

Of course you will call me a commie/greenie liberal for pointing out the truth because it goes against your strict litmus idealogy.


153 posted on 01/30/2022 1:59:29 PM PST by setter
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To: CodeToad

“Typical liberal: Always backtracking when the spotlight shines on your own comments. ALL of your comments about economics are testimonies of your communism. All of them.”


Show me the link where I espose communism in any way shape or form. I have been asking you now for 2 days now.

Put up or shut up.


154 posted on 01/30/2022 2:02:37 PM PST by setter
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To: EEGator
There are grid challenges, but the Five Year Plans will overcome them, Comrade EEGator!!

 face with tears of joy  face with tears of joy  face with tears of joy  face with tears of joy

155 posted on 01/30/2022 2:03:26 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: RWGinger

—”Can they put enough charging stations at apartment buildings so everyone can as Texasgator put it “charge while you sleep’?”

All that is needed is a simple 110VAV receptacle for each car.

Is that a big deal?
Why?


156 posted on 01/30/2022 2:03:44 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: setter

Oooooh, I’m scaaaared, the little communist who said it is the government who funds innovation and job creation claims he isn’t a communist.

Piss off, Sunshine. No one wants to hear your communist threats and propaganda. We’ll kick your ass all he way back to Moscow.


157 posted on 01/30/2022 2:04:04 PM PST by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: kiryandil

“Smoking dope and posting is an ugly look.”


So I destroy your statement with facts and you attack me. This is all you have.
Oh btw can’t stand pot smokers or drug users.


158 posted on 01/30/2022 2:05:07 PM PST by setter
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To: Signalman

Im on our HOA board a dude started changing his car in his garage with power funded by the Hoa He thought he was real slick we put an end to that silliness We don’t pay for other owners gas so we aint gonna pay for electricity to charge his car Bed wetting obama voter


159 posted on 01/30/2022 2:05:42 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: setter
You do know most coal plants have been extended

They took two coal power plants generating 500 megawatts offline permanently in my area in the last 3 years...

160 posted on 01/30/2022 2:08:55 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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