If you forget to plug your drained cell phone in to the charger, does it charge by osmosis?
If your power drops for six hours near the beginning of the charge cycle for a discharged Tesla, does it charge by osmosis? 
Posted on 01/30/2022 10:32:05 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
A gas station-style forecourt isn't necessarily the best option
I’ve always been of the opinion that you should bring EV chargers to the people, rather than asking people to come to the chargers. But admittedly charging hubs aren’t very common, and until very recently they were all too far away to experience first hand.
But at the tail end of last year, Shell opened up its first EV charging hub in Fulham, in West London. It’s still pretty out of the way for me, and the trip involves driving into the heart of the U.K.’s busiest city from nearby Reading. But it’s not so far that I couldn’t check this out for myself, just in case I’ve been totally wrong about EV charging this whole time.
And yes, for those that didn’t know, Shell the oil company is also in the EV charging business. So is BP, which is all really weird to think about.
According to Shell the Fulham hub uses 100% renewable energy, with on-site solar panels contributing around a quarter of its needs.
It was a very painless experience, only really hampered by the fact the price was so high. £0.49 ($0.66). I’m used to rapid chargers being more expensive, but Shell Recharge is the most expensive I’ve ever seen. Back home a rapid charger will cost me £0.30 to £0.35 ($0.40 to $0.47) per kWh, depending on which company’s chargers I’m using. It’s not just London-centric inflation, either, since that is an all-too real problem in the English capital.
According to ZapMap, which lists the vast majority of available chargers, nearby rapid chargers were charging no more than £0.39 ($0.52) per kWh.
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“Don’t call any of us when you get stranded in your EV”
Least of my worries ...
—”Where is the other 75+/-% coming from?”
About once a month they knock on my door wanting to sign up for a green electric source.
Somehow the power company the green from the sinful black electrons. That way you only receive power from windmills and unicorns...
Not long ago, there was a thread on FR when Biden was pushing people to take the train. The problem is that trains don't go where you want them to, or where you need to go. I called Amtrak a while back, checking into getting the train from here in Central NY State, to visit my youngest son in Indiana. I'd need to arrive at Indianapolis. There were no trains that went that way.
My Dad worked on the New York Central Railroad for years...first as a laborer, and at the end of his career, he was a Track Foreman. He loved the railroad, and would be incensed to see the way things have gone. He retired not long after the New York Central split into Amtrak and Conrail.
My oldest son worked for about 7 years as a dispatcher for Conrail in Selkirk, New York. When they merged with Norfolk Southern, and CSX, his region expanded, and the workload increased to the point that he said dispatchers who'd been with the company for 20+ years, were going out with stress-related illnesses. He left not long afterward, because he couldn't see himself working under those conditions for the rest of his life. He's a computer geek, and has worked for an international company for several years now. And since the lockdown almost two years ago, he's been working from home. Sure beats fighting traffic in Albany, NY to get to work each day.
-PJ
“How long does recharging take compared to filling your tank?”
Tesla superchargers give 185-200 mile range in 15 minutes fully charged in 6-7 hours.
The new solid state batteries all the companies are going to are fast charging-fully charged in an hour or so or less.
New battery company Qouantam space said theirs will charge fully in 8-12 minutes a nd have a 700-750 mile range but it is 2-3 years away from productions.
Not sure I’d like standing in freezing weather for fifteen minutes charging my car when I can gas up in five.
In today's America, would you rather drive into an "urban" gas station in your $25,000 Chevy Malibu for a 3 minute fill-up, or park at an "urban" EV station in your $45,000 Tesla Model 3 for 30 minutes while you charge up?
-PJ
If you forget to plug your drained cell phone in to the charger, does it charge by osmosis?
If your power drops for six hours near the beginning of the charge cycle for a discharged Tesla, does it charge by osmosis?
How Much Do Electric Vehicles Cost to ‘Fill Up’ Compared With Buying Gasoline?
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“Show me ONE apartment building that has put in enough chargers for every apartment dweller.
Do you honestly think That will ever happen?”
Only going to need a few. The new Solid state batteries will charge in about an hour + or -. You will charge your car and move back to your parking space.
It will work the same as the public commons washer and dryers in the apartments. You will wait your turn or go when no one is musing them.
The new Quantam Space battery charges in 8-12 minutes fully but it will be a few years before it comes out.
Charging your car in the future won’t be just gas stations as we know them. Most charging will be done at home but much will be at your work, where you shop, where you eat.
I’m sure the local Nuffins would not be so impolite as to stake out the local electricity watering hole for fresh prey...
Prey that’s immobilized for half an hour...
that is “Pre-Electric Mandate” prices- once everything goes electric- prices will soar- and the people will have no choice but to pay it or walk-
“Not sure I’d like standing in freezing weather for fifteen minutes charging my car when I can gas up in five.”
...or you can sit in your heated car and post on FreeRepublic or take a pee break in the bathroom while charging.
(The charger have a special key fob connection so no one can unplug it if you are not there)
The Tesla didn’t get into the garage without having some charge in the battery. I can tell you’ve never owned one…
I'm old enough to remember the No-Fault Insurance commercials on the TeeVee, and how they promised reduced insurance rates once our state switched to all No-Fault.
There's an EV sucker born every minute.
—”Liberals want us to go from having lots of fuel choices and competition for gas stations to a single monopoly utility company that they can jack the prices all the hell and control everyone.”
The price of natural gas for my kitchen and boilers has DOUBLED in the last few months.
Why is it there is so much emotional dumb bull#$%^ surrounding EVs?
A: because it is seen as a stalking horse for the “climate change/global warming” crowd.
Here are the facts:
EVs should stand or fall based on their (1) Quality (2) Price (3) Performance and (4) User experience. NOT on CO2, Global Warming, Political, Tax Credits, etc.
If they do, it’s OLD FASHIONED FREE MARKET CAPITALISM.
If you don’t want an EV, don’t buy one.
I have a 2019 Mustang GT California Special, and a Ford F 150-8 with 300CI Coyote V8. Two REALLY good vehicles.
I also have a Tesla CyberTruck on order. Do I care which one uses Gas or Electric? No, I buy on range, price, cost to operate, experience, etc.
Why did I order a CyberTruck?
A: I paid $71.37 yesterday to fill up the F-150. I get about 340 miles range on a tank. At my house I pay 9.7 cents/KWH for electricity. @100 KWH, it would cost me $9.70 to recharge the Cybertruck. The Cybertruck list is ~ what I paid for the F-150. Except the Cybertruck is FASTER 0 to Sixty than my Mustang GT with Manual Transmission. I plan to recharge overnight, and only use superchargers when I am driving long distances. I live in Dallas, and sometimes travel to Austin, Houston, Tyler, etc. There are superchargers along the way, and the peak rate for v3 supercharges (actual vs quoted) is 810 miles charged/hour. So, my typical stop for supercharging somewhere between Dallas and Austin/Houston would be 20 minutes, where I would add 270 miles.....During that 20 minutes I would grab a drink, go to the bathroom, stretch my legs, etc....Newflash - I do this when driving with my GT or F-150. Stop somewhere, gas up, go to the bathroom, etc. I don’t like driving more than 300 miles at a sitting.
So, what does all this mean? I buy a car for TRANSPORTATION, not for sending a message or politics.
Lastly, the self-driving technology being developed by every major car company on the planet is a way bigger deal than EVs. Do you realize you can make a gas car self-driving just as easy? It will disrupt the automotive market way more than battery powered electric.
Also, did you know the first cars were steam and electric primary, until the big boys got together and did gasoline engines? The first gas engines were inferior to steam and electric for 20 years! We have spent 100’s of Billions developing the gasoline engine (not that there is anything wrong with that). The innovation is just beginning in electric.
If batteries continue to improve at the rate and lowered cost they have in the last 10 years, we are on track to have 500-1000 mile range for a battery cost of 10-15k in < 10 years. This is conservative. Aluminum-Air can get a range of 3000-5000 miles, but cannot (so far) be in-place recharged.
Are you arguing with yourself?
No one said the vehicle was fully discharged.
Your arms must be tiring from beating your own strawmen.
—”I live in hurricane land. Electricity out for a week is common with hurricanes.”
How are the pumps powered without electricity for a week?
Many around talk like they drive 300 miles plus every day?
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