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I just tried Shell’s EV charging hub — and it's not the future I want
Toms Guide ^ | 30 Jan 2022 | Tom Pritchard

Posted on 01/30/2022 10:32:05 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

A gas station-style forecourt isn't necessarily the best option

I’ve always been of the opinion that you should bring EV chargers to the people, rather than asking people to come to the chargers. But admittedly charging hubs aren’t very common, and until very recently they were all too far away to experience first hand.

But at the tail end of last year, Shell opened up its first EV charging hub in Fulham, in West London. It’s still pretty out of the way for me, and the trip involves driving into the heart of the U.K.’s busiest city from nearby Reading. But it’s not so far that I couldn’t check this out for myself, just in case I’ve been totally wrong about EV charging this whole time.

And yes, for those that didn’t know, Shell the oil company is also in the EV charging business. So is BP, which is all really weird to think about.

According to Shell the Fulham hub uses 100% renewable energy, with on-site solar panels contributing around a quarter of its needs.

It was a very painless experience, only really hampered by the fact the price was so high. £0.49 ($0.66). I’m used to rapid chargers being more expensive, but Shell Recharge is the most expensive I’ve ever seen. Back home a rapid charger will cost me £0.30 to £0.35 ($0.40 to $0.47) per kWh, depending on which company’s chargers I’m using. It’s not just London-centric inflation, either, since that is an all-too real problem in the English capital.

According to ZapMap, which lists the vast majority of available chargers, nearby rapid chargers were charging no more than £0.39 ($0.52) per kWh.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: charge; dev; displacedemissions; electionvehicle; electricvehicle; ev; expensive; impractical; inconvenient
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To: MtnClimber

Among all of Brandon’s destructive policies (anti-fossil fuel, anti-nuke energy, an open border, CRT, Covid, electoral theft, inflation), are we supposed to believe their EV policy, forcing society into unwanted EVs, is the one policy that’s in the best interest of the American people?

Freeper EV Evangelicals believe so.

Sad.


101 posted on 01/30/2022 12:29:16 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: kiryandil

You said, “ We lost power for 6 hours last night in the middle of the night, after everyone had gone to bed.

I checked my ICE automobile.

It still had a full charge of gasoline.

My neighbor’s Tesla?

Not so much...”

So, you implied that the short power outage had not reduced the fuel in your ICE car, but *had* in your neighbor’s Tesla.


102 posted on 01/30/2022 12:30:10 PM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

EVs for the homeless!


103 posted on 01/30/2022 12:30:43 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: dinodino
So, you implied that the short power outage had not reduced the fuel in your ICE car, but *had* in your neighbor’s Tesla.

No, your own reading comprehension implied that.

Go on beating your strawmen, and leave me out of your online fantasies.  winking face

104 posted on 01/30/2022 12:32:22 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: JBW1949

105 posted on 01/30/2022 12:32:42 PM PST by Ken H (Trump won.)
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To: brianl703

—”In the USA, most electricians are using more aluminum these days due to the cost of copper.”

For residential?
Perhaps where you live?
I’m related to two electricians and hear about it often.

“The wiring itself isn’t a problem; aluminum conducts electricity safely. ... The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) reports that homes with aluminum wiring are 55 times more likely to have “fire hazard conditions” than homes wired with copper.”

https://t.ly/Qhk9


106 posted on 01/30/2022 12:34:07 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: kiryandil
Yup.

-PJ

107 posted on 01/30/2022 12:35:10 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: setter

I agree about fossil fuels.

No oil, no green, blue, purple, yellow or any other color hair dye, life would come to a standstill!

About 30% of all oil use is non-fuel in nature and every EV has oil everywhere, from the paint to the interior to the tires and much more.

Also, those electric airliners won’t be in use anytime soon.


108 posted on 01/30/2022 12:39:36 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (If It Aint Woke Don't Fix It.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Thanks.

"We also take fewer road trips than we think: Less than about half of 1% of all drives are for more than 150 miles, and that applies to people in every city we considered, according to a Transportation Department study."

109 posted on 01/30/2022 12:42:08 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“In all of the 15 cities we analyzed, the Mach-E beats the RAV4 when the driver can take advantage of at-home charging rates”


110 posted on 01/30/2022 12:42:55 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: setter

I would like to know which EV company you work for, or battery manufacturer. Your posts are dripping with Hopium, to the point you can’t be taken seriously.


111 posted on 01/30/2022 12:42:55 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Tennessee Nana

The five people I know who drive Teslas all have their charging stations in their garage.


112 posted on 01/30/2022 12:44:56 PM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: TexasGator

I calculated for the Model Y stats (27Kwh per 100 miles) versus a 33mpg gasoline car with $3 per gallon gas.

The break even fuel cost per Kwh is $.32 (32 cents per Kwh)

I suspect the answer is that current at home prices are below that but that the commercial charging stations will charge more.

Now, all we have to do is get decent EV cars for about $20K, millions of charging stations and enough time to charge up. It looks to me like EV will be short haul vehicles for upper middle and upper income people with home, off street, parking and charging capabilities. Where I live on the west coast of Florida, that’s a decent size demographic. In small town New Hampshire, where I used to live, not so much.


113 posted on 01/30/2022 12:44:56 PM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: CodeToad

—”As you may already know, many States are 22 cents for electricity, and that price is subject to massive increases if EVs become the norm.”

Where did you see that at?
PLS show a link.

EVs are currently less than 4% of sales.

Daytime electric production average is half of the peak load.
Nighttime peak is half of daytime peak

Most states sell surplus electricity.
California and New York not so much.

In what year do you think EV sales will exceed 25%?


114 posted on 01/30/2022 12:45:44 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Bryan24

“I would like to know which EV company you work for, or battery manufacturer. Your posts are dripping with Hopium, to the point you can’t be taken seriously.”

Ha ha actually own 3 companies and have a small a farm above the largest natural gas deposits in the world and get gas royalties.

When people speak badly of ev;s and spout outright lies due to politics not the actual technology which is improving daily I have to counter it.


115 posted on 01/30/2022 12:49:28 PM PST by setter
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To: CodeToad

” I’ve made many trips between Denver and Florida; fill up in the morning and still have over 150 miles range at the end of the day.

Wow! 75 mpg!


116 posted on 01/30/2022 12:51:25 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Bryan24
Shhh!

The unicorn farts EV debate is distracting him from pimping for the vaxxes...  winking face

117 posted on 01/30/2022 12:51:56 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: EEGator

—”The distribution system will overload if things keeping going in a non linear fashion. A cascading failure would be real fun...”

When I was a kid nobody had residential Air Condition, by the time I finished high school everybody had AC.
And the Seasonal Energy Efficiency Ratio was near ZERO, real energy hogs by today’s standards.

I don’t recall any massive power failures?

What time frame do you project for this event?


118 posted on 01/30/2022 1:01:04 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The “man will never fly” crew will be out in force on this thread. They are more obsessed with ev’s then any of my friends who drive them. The Tesla owners I know couldn’t care less about global warming or what kind of car others choose to drive.


119 posted on 01/30/2022 1:03:13 PM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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To: TexasGator

“Don’t call any of us when you get stranded in your EV”

“Least of my worries ...”

As long as you don’t drive them...

“Lexus was rated the most reliable automaker in Consumer Reports’ 2021 Auto Reliability Report, followed by Mazda and Toyota, while Jeep, Tesla and Lincoln were at the bottom of the list.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/18/consumer-reports-2021-auto-reliability-survey-how-tesla-evs-fared.html


120 posted on 01/30/2022 1:03:47 PM PST by BobL (Money is the most important thing in my life.)
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