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SHOT Show: New Remington Subsonic .22, 40 Grain Long Rifle
AmmoLand ^ | January 28, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 01/29/2022 6:38:49 AM PST by marktwain

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To: DownInFlames

A suppressor will provide more back-pressure.


41 posted on 01/29/2022 9:00:50 AM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: mylife

42 posted on 01/29/2022 9:09:56 AM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: marktwain

Lower velocity loads generate less force than higher velocity loads using the same weight bullet. So a 40-gr load that gets 900 fps MV creates less force for the action to harvest than one that gets 1400 fps MV from the same bullet 40-gr bullet. It’s called “physics.”

Blowback-operated guns come from the factory with a combination of bolt weight and recoil spring strength calibrated to provide just the right amount of resistance to movement so the spent casing doesn’t begin to get extracted until chamber pressure has fallen off enough that the brass doesn’t split when its expansion is no longer confined by the firing chamber. Manufacturers don’t necessarily take into consideration that the user might choose to shoot subsonic loads because that could compromise the ability to cycle safely with “high-velocity” loads, and far more shooters are looking for the words “High Velocity” on the box than are looking to buy “Subsonic” ammunition.

So it isn’t unheard of to have to switch to a lighter-weight recoil spring to get a semi-automatic .22 to cycle reliably when you’re shooting subsonics. You could also grind some weight off the bolt to get the same effect but that would be an irreversible change.


43 posted on 01/29/2022 9:20:10 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: BBB333

My 10/22 doesn’t have an issue. Walter p22 doesn’t like them.


44 posted on 01/29/2022 9:22:47 AM PST by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative )
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To: maddog55

Lots of discussion on this issue. Yet another reason to use revolvers or lever action rifles.


45 posted on 01/29/2022 9:26:43 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: Gaffer

>IMO, Thunderbolt is cheap, dirty trashy ammo.

Agreed, hugely inconsistent. Only works sort of reliable in a bolt action, fewer moving parts. Use in semi-auto rifle it’s nothing but trouble, semi-auto pistol even worse. Only thing it ever had going for it was the cheap part


46 posted on 01/29/2022 10:02:18 AM PST by nevadapatriot
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To: Gaffer

I like my ammo the way I like my women . . .


47 posted on 01/29/2022 10:02:31 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Don't wish your enemy ill; plan it. )
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To: Hardastarboard

Hot,
Black and
Bitter.
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I’m there,Brudda!


48 posted on 01/29/2022 11:14:50 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: Kevmo

Personal choice like anything else.


49 posted on 01/29/2022 11:26:18 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: maddog55

Maybe that’s a criteria to explore the next time someone posts what kind of gun they should buy.

The cheapskate approach is just as valid as the M249 with grenade launcher option approach. When the ammo is cheaper it is likely the user will practice more.


50 posted on 01/29/2022 11:34:30 AM PST by Kevmo (I’m immune from Covid since I don’t watch TV.🤗)
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To: maddog55

Lighter recoil spring doesn’t solve the problem?


51 posted on 01/29/2022 11:37:54 AM PST by SheepWhisperer (My enemy saw me on my knees, head bowed and thought they had won until I rose up and said Amen!)
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To: marktwain

Good for them. I’m sure they’ll be many happy customers.


52 posted on 01/29/2022 1:10:49 PM PST by GingisK
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To: anton

Nothing to dispel a rioting mob better than dropping a few of them from 200 meters away.


At 200 yards, the patella is ‘10X Country’.

Heard as much from IDF and Mossad forces.


53 posted on 01/29/2022 10:08:01 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW. )
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To: S.O.S121.500

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54 posted on 01/30/2022 12:30:10 AM PST by anton
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To: S.O.S121.500

Well, I hate to sound ruthless, but with a rioting mob at 200 yards, the backdrop of every missed shot, say all 30 of them, is more rioting mobsters. And, at 200 yards a head shot is a basketball. Not a bullseye.


55 posted on 01/30/2022 4:18:00 AM PST by anton
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To: nevadapatriot; Gaffer

Remington Thunderbolt works good in my 10/22. No issues feeding, firing or extracting.


56 posted on 01/30/2022 3:18:57 PM PST by Redcitizen
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To: Redcitizen

Then you’re lucky. I have one I use with a can and it is hit or miss. I had 5000 rounds of that stuff and finally sold it....


57 posted on 01/30/2022 3:30:25 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: marktwain

I am totally soured on Remington Rimfire ammo and will not buy it. Anyone who experienced as many misfires as I has got to have the same reluctance to purchase their Rimfire products. This explains why they aren’t receiving complaints. Those who shoot a lot and regularly have simply moved on to other manufacturers products. Now I have some bricks of early 90’s GI issue Remington .22 from CMP that seem to shoot just fine despite the age of the ammo. But newer Remington is no longer on my list, even though the availability of big buckets make it tempting.


58 posted on 01/31/2022 6:35:42 AM PST by Pennsyltucky Boy (bitterly clinging to our constitutional rights in PA)
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To: Pennsyltucky Boy
Anyone who experienced as many misfires as I has got to have the same reluctance to purchase their Rimfire products. This explains why they aren’t receiving complaints.

The problem with your reasoning is the high demand for ammunition, particularly .22 ammunition, means all they can produce is being purchased as fast as they can deliver it.

To be true, your analysis depends on less of their ammunition being sold.

But every bit of ammunition which is being manufactured, is being sold.

59 posted on 01/31/2022 6:42:32 AM PST by marktwain (Amazing people can read a persons entire personality and character from one photograph.)
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