Posted on 01/19/2022 10:44:23 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Professor Cyrille Cohen is head of Immunology at Bar Ilan University and a member of the advisory committee for vaccines for the Israeli Government. In a wide-ranging and forthright interview, the Professor tells Freddie Sayers:
Especially with Omicron, where we don’t see virtually any difference, there is a very narrow gap between people vaccinated and non-vaccinated, both can get infected with a virus, more or less at the same pace.
- CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
You have also to understand that the Green Pass is not necessarily — and that’s not a secret — it’s not necessarily to prevent transmission. It’s also to encourage people to get vaccinated. And I don’t want to touch upon the political aspects of the green pass. But this is a reality. - CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
Herd immunity is a consequence for me. It’s not an objective, it’s not a goal. There is a thin nuance here, if I may say, that people have to grasp. I’m not saying to people go and get infected, I don’t think that this is a model that we need to adopt. - CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
There is one mistake, I think that we made, and that I’m extremely sorry for that. We have made a few mistakes, but it was education. For me education was the thing we shouldn’t have touched. Never, never. - CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
I think it’s going to be like flu, I think there is going to be bad waves and better waves, with a better immunity at the level of the population, with better vaccines with better treatment. In that sense, and I’m extremely cautious, there is a possibility that Omicron will accelerate that transition. - CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
I think that vaccination is a personal choice. And I always said, I believe it is so. But that choice has some consequences. And here, there is a problem in society. If you are over 50, 60, and you’re saying I don’t want to get vaccinated, will you be, and I’m gonna ask a provocative question, will you be willing to renounce on the possibility of getting taken care of in hospitals? -CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
(will you be willing to renounce on the possibility of getting taken care of in hospitals?)
And what if the jab is what makes you ill?
Will you pick up the tab for those folks?
I think the better question is, are you going to take care of all the vax injured people down the road or should only those who were smart and prudent enough to abstain from getting jabbed deserving of medical treatment?
I think the better question is, are you going to take care of all the vax injured people down the road or should only those who were smart and prudent enough to abstain from getting jabbed deserving of medical treatment?
I think the better question is, are you going to take care of all the vax injured people down the road or should only those who were smart and prudent enough to abstain from getting jabbed deserving of medical treatment?
Sorry for the repeat.
bttt
“He and his colleagues were surprised and disappointed that the vaccines did not prevent transmission, as they had originally hoped”
Pfizer and Moderna state in the FDA filings that they didn’t have any data to indicate whether or not it prevented transmission. Government tyrants lied and now it’s time for them to pretend they just didn’t know any better.
That’s ok. You and your liberal authoritarian friends have burned, gassed, railroaded people’s lives who exercised more caution than you. Will you make them whole? You paralyzed people with fear, terror, stress … over your hopes the vax worked. It was obvious 9-12 months ago it did not. Yet you crammed it down males (I refuse to call them men), women and children’s throats under the force/power of the state. Exactly how are you going to make amends? Are the weak who knuckled over (again and again) going to be rewarded? It seems a better plan to reward the very people who called you out, refused to comply, and payed a psychological and personal price should be rewarded. But yet no BIG.GOV would dare reward the responsible citizens.
So for the Branch Covidians in both FR and BIG.GOV I give you all a big FU. 🖕
When this settles out. I want 1 singl Viking kitty thread where the Branch Covidians all get zotted. Ride the lightning Itches.
See my post #9. We need to hound the itches that pushed all this out of existence. It will take 10years to understand the damage. I will gladly stand by my brothers and sisters side. I will not stand by my trans fake “claimed” siblings side.
The rationale was, "OMG! Covid is so deadly, we can't wait for a perfect vaccine, we must try anything that might stop Covid, the extinction of all humanity is only months away if we don't immediately stop this most deadly of plagues!"
| In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Israeli Covid vaccine advisor and head of Immunology at Bar Ilan University : “We have made mistakes”, Angelino97 wrote: |
| Pfizer and Moderna state in the FDA filings that they didn’t have any data to indicate whether or not it prevented transmission. Government tyrants lied and now it’s time for them to pretend they just didn’t know any better. The rationale was, "OMG! Covid is so deadly, we can't wait for a perfect vaccine, we must try anything that might stop Covid, the extinction of all humanity is only months away if we don't immediately stop this most deadly of plagues!" |
Except when it comes to available treatments and medications like HCQ and Ivermectin. Then it's 'Quick! Prevent anyone from getting any treatment no matter how safe and effective! NO! NO! NOt Ivermectin! The W.H.O. has classified that as an 'essential medicine' and it's used safely around the world! " and "NEVER! We will let the sick and elderly die without a drop of treatment rather than let the dying try Ivermectin!"
A tacit admission that this never was about people’s health.
There is one mistake, I think that we made, and that I’m extremely sorry for that. We have made a few mistakes, but it was education. For me education was the thing we shouldn’t have touched. Never, never.
Liar.
I think that vaccination is a personal choice. And I always said, I believe it is so. But that choice has some consequences. And here, there is a problem in society. If you are over 50, 60, and you’re saying I don’t want to get vaccinated, will you be, and I’m gonna ask a provocative question, will you be willing to renounce on the possibility of getting taken care of in hospitals?
Which means you don’t really think it is a personal choice.
This man is evil incarnate.
I am at a point where I feel like my chance of survival is better at home than it is in a hospital. Remdisivir is killing people. Ventilators are killing people. They are depriving people of food and water.
I don’t trust hospitals anymore.
I keep praying that I don’t have a minor injury that requires brief hospitalization. I have no doubt they would vaccinate me in my sleep.
Exactly.
Preach it!
Same here.
The real moral issue here is: If the authorities can limit or curtail treatment because of the patient's "intransigence" re. vaxxination - what's to prevent them from denying care for any of a slew of other supposed "sins" (failure to get jabbed for some other, unrelated malady like papillomaviruses; refusal to modify a sedentary lifestyle; eating meat; etc.)?
It's a slippery slope! Don't they realize this?
Regards,
In the very beginning someone said “It’s just a cold”.
Well, guess what?
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