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A Better 9mm? Federal Introduces the 30 Super Carry Self Defense Handgun Cartridge
Field and Stream ^ | 16 jan 2022 | Richard Mann

Posted on 01/16/2022 1:02:13 PM PST by rellimpank

Federal has introduced a new cartridge that has been specifically designed for those who carry a concealed pistol for personal protection. They’re calling it the 30 Super Carry. From an external and terminal ballistics standpoint, the 30 Super Carry will run right with the 9mm, but offers some advantages. It generates between 10 and 20 percent less recoil, for one thing. And maybe more importantly, given magazines of the same size, it offers a higher capacity than the .380 Auto or 9mm Luger. How did Federal achieve this? They borrowed from what they learned in 2008 while developing the .327 Federal Magnum.

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To: Vermont Lt
How does one explain this to their wife? I NEED another pistol?

Just go buy the gun. You're probably more likely to be given forgiveness than permission. Keep repeating the process until she hires a divorce attorney, then in a sign of contrition, offer to sell off a gun or two or three, whatever is the minimum needed to save your marriage.

61 posted on 01/16/2022 3:55:03 PM PST by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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To: Vaquero
It’s basically the .32 federal magnum without a rim.

That was my first thought, but it's closer to a 7.65×20mm Longue. Developed in the US for something called the Pederson Device, adopted by the French for handguns.

I have a Ruger GP100 in .327 Federal Magnum. It's fun to shoot. Mine has never seen factory ammo, all handloads.

62 posted on 01/16/2022 4:31:39 PM PST by IndispensableDestiny
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To: Myrddin

For number of years a friend of mine owned property out in the county which was designed by God to be a perfect gun range. I had the freedom of going there anytime I wanted for however long or short I wanted. It was really, really nice. Unfortunately a couple years ago he sold the property so I’m back to the Indoor Range. However ,on the bright side it is 15 minutes from home most of the time. So now the big obstacle is of course the cost of ammunition. Although I have to admit a private outdoor range for rifle practice and handgun drills is considerably better than an indoor range, and a whole lot more enjoyable.
What you have described does make me feel fortunate.


63 posted on 01/16/2022 4:32:06 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there..)
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To: ChildOfThe60s; griffin; larrytown

Yeah, what I’ve seen in the past six decades or so is there is always one more genius who thinks we need just one more bullet ‘cause he couldn’t hit anything with the one he has. And I’ve seen a bunch come and go. What I tell folks is that if you can’t buy it off the shelf in the drug store you probly don’t really need it. The basic drug store calibers are mostly 22, 25, 32, 380, 38, 357, 9mm, 44, 45, 30c, 30-30- 308, 270, 3006, and 12 ga. Anything else won’t be available when you need it.

And then you need to tell me where you want to keep/carry it so I can get you into an appropriate size range. After that we need to make sure you can actually shoot it under control. You can defend yourself with any of the above if you know how to use it. Same for feeding yourself. If one is worried about recoil maybe one should stick with a slingshot?

Anything else


64 posted on 01/16/2022 4:56:59 PM PST by OldWarBaby
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To: Vermont Lt

“How does one explain this to their wife?

I NEED another pistol?”

It is easier to beg forgiveness than to seek permission.
Just go buy it.


65 posted on 01/16/2022 5:11:19 PM PST by oldvirginian (So if a cow doesn’t produce milk, is it a milk dud or an udder failure?)
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To: TnTnTn

I’m good with the the plain Jane 9’s. But thanks for asking.


66 posted on 01/16/2022 5:15:33 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: JD_UTDallas

You know, you really didn’t have to post all that about the 10mm, sowing envy and everything else. Ha Ha


67 posted on 01/16/2022 5:45:05 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Jeff Chandler
I’ve got a surplus CZ-52 magazine that has dents in the front, created by stored bullets under recoil. Impressive, but not useful. :)
68 posted on 01/16/2022 6:19:53 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: Openurmind

If you want a nicer model Zastava makes brand new tokarevs with a slide mounted safety and magazine with an extra round. Last I checked they were about $400.

CC


69 posted on 01/16/2022 6:30:21 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Myrddin
...I reload all of my center fire cartridges. The 9mm is not a straight walled brass casing. It is slightly tapered. The straight wall cases e.g. 45Auto, 40S&W, 10mm are easier to reload and consistently headspace on the case mouth...

If you reload AND prefer straight wall cases, you would probably like .38 Super. You can load it up to higher energy levels than the 9x19, or load it down to match the .38 ACP. Plus, the larger case can safely handle heavier bullets than the 9x19...

70 posted on 01/16/2022 6:32:13 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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To: OldWarBaby
...The basic drug store calibers are mostly 22, 25, 32, 380, 38, 357, 9mm, 44, 45, 30c, 30-30- 308, 270, 3006, and 12 ga. Anything else won’t be available when you need it...

Actually, it kind of depends. Folks have been saying for decades, "Buy yourself a 9mm, a .308, and a 12 gauge, because you'll ALWAYS be able to find ammo!" Sounded like good advice, so a lot of people did that. As a direct result, when supplies get short, the most popular calibers seem to disappear first. The places I've lived for the last few shortages (going back at least to Obama), had .40S&W, 7.62x39, and 20 gauge available long after every box of 9mm, 5.56, .308 and 12 gauge had disappeared. YMMV...

71 posted on 01/16/2022 6:57:39 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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To: Myrddin

I’m a big fan of .38 Super, during the first ammo frenzy I scoured Albuquerque and found a shop that was sitting on 4000 rounds of it. Offered them $15 a box for the lot. I’m set. Did the same with 16 gauge buckshot and slugs. Those had been around so long most were $2 per box of 5. Stocked up on .300 Savage too. Yeah, I’m weird.


72 posted on 01/16/2022 7:17:27 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Celtic Conservative

Yep. I’ve got a Romanian TTC thats almost as old as I am. 30 Tokarev when you really need to punch through.


73 posted on 01/16/2022 7:21:06 PM PST by Noumenon (Black American flag time. KTF)
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To: Noumenon

Same here, Eisenhower was president when mine was made.

CC


74 posted on 01/16/2022 7:26:44 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Myrddin

I’ll be upgrading shortly to a Glock mod 40 MOS. For that extra bit of punch. I still have some carefully hoarded Black Talon ammo for it.


75 posted on 01/16/2022 7:30:40 PM PST by Noumenon (Black American flag time. KTF)
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To: Who is John Galt?

See my 72. Having some of the off the beaten path stuff is good insurance. Make a good deal on odd ammo then look for the right gun. A local gun store bought whole estates (guns, ammo, books, etc…). Had a bunch of .32-20. Two months later scored a Colt Army Special from a pawn shop desperate to unload such a weird caliber.


76 posted on 01/16/2022 7:35:54 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: rellimpank

John Browning developed an improved 9mm back in 1911.


77 posted on 01/16/2022 7:38:44 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: gundog

The Tokarev is a great round. It penetrates like a mutha, and with the proper load carries the kinetic energy of a .357 Magnum.


78 posted on 01/16/2022 8:02:40 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: old curmudgeon; Mariner

Shot a box of .357 Mag
Thru a 2.25 inch SP101
Yesterday, and I’m Happy
with That.
No Bruises,
Ha!
A paper plate at 50 ft. Is
Good enough too.


79 posted on 01/16/2022 8:18:34 PM PST by Big Red Badger (Make His Paths Straight!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

You would be “sittin’ pretty” where I live, too - my local Walmart still can’t keep 12 gauge or 20 in stock, but they’ve got 16 just about every time I swing by. Just over from the 16 gauge, they usually have a pile of .350 Legend (a.k.a. 9x43mm, which I shoot, but don’t need any more of right now ;>)...


80 posted on 01/16/2022 8:24:33 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("Shoeless Joe" played for the White Sox; "Clueless Joe" lives in the White House...)
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