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U.S. Insurers Wasted Millions on Ivermectin for Covid-19, Study Finds
Gizmodo ^ | 1/14/22 | Ed Cara

Posted on 01/15/2022 4:59:57 AM PST by Libloather

Researchers analyzing insurance claims data estimate that U.S. insurers have paid tens of millions of dollars for ivermectin as a covid-19 treatment, despite little good evidence that ivermectin does anything to treat or prevent the viral illness. During a single week in August 2021, private and Medicare insurance plans forked over about $2.5 million for covid-related prescriptions of ivermectin, according to the new study, published Thursday in JAMA.

Ivermectin is a cheap and effective antiparasitic that’s been in wide use for around 40 years. At the start of the pandemic, it was one of many existing drugs to receive a second look as a possible antiviral treatment for covid-19, based on early lab results. During the past two years, however, the field of covid-related research on ivermectin has been riddled with poor quality data and allegations of widespread fraud. There are still important ongoing studies of ivermectin for covid-19, but the largest and likely most rigorous trials to date have found no clear benefit for the drug in either treating or preventing covid-19.

This lack of solid evidence hasn’t stopped ivermectin from being adopted as the covid treatment of choice by some people and doctors. These devotees tend to be politically right-wing and espouse unsupported claims about the dangers of vaccines. They’re also, strangely enough, often dismissive about the pandemic, downplaying its harms even as they stock up on drugs like ivermectin to seemingly stay safe.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; covid; covidstooges; edcara; gizmodonewspuppet; insurance; ivermectin; obamacare; projectveritas; rona; study; thewaronivermectin; vaccinemandates; waronivermectin
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To: DugwayDuke

there’s your problem. you went to the cdc for your “facts”

you are convinced the experimental drug is approved.

jab all you want.

I’m done trying to change your liberal like mind.


81 posted on 01/15/2022 10:58:47 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: Libloather

So saving lives is wasting money?


82 posted on 01/15/2022 11:24:41 AM PST by EastTexasTraveler
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To: Libloather

Gizmodo??????????????


83 posted on 01/15/2022 11:39:08 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

$2.5 million drop in the bucket on ivm spend.

And every dollar we’ll worth it.


84 posted on 01/15/2022 11:43:43 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: gleeaikin

Novavax- is a spike protein infection. Traditional vaccine, but the spike protein is cleverly manufactured.

JnJ is an adenovirus vector dna / gene therapy approach/ it get your body to make the spike protein

Az - very similar to JnJ, uses a different adenovirus as a vector

Moderna/ Pfizer- engineered modified rna encased in lipid nano particles, that protects the rna, and help it pass through cell membranes. (Most exotic approach)


85 posted on 01/15/2022 11:49:12 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: DugwayDuke

Natural immunity also wanes and is no more effective than the vaccines - dugway duke, vac propagandist

Please cite a source for this (false) claim.

There is lots of research that says natural immunity is long lasting and more robust than vaccines. Because memory r cells are triggered, and the antibodies are not solely focused on the spike protein, which is highly susceptible to viable mutations.


86 posted on 01/15/2022 11:53:29 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: DugwayDuke

Are you a MORON?

Let me answer that... YES!

There is no fully approved vaxxine (other than EUA) ON THE MARKET today.

Why? Because the SECOND it is, emergency authorizations go away and “liability” is INCLUDED for the new drug (same as the old drug) not the liability part, but the drugs are the same (so they SAY)

Deny all you want, but the FACT is there is no fully approved vaccine available. It doesn’t currently exist, only in your mind.


87 posted on 01/15/2022 11:57:52 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: cableguymn

moreso, yes, but there are still a ton of protections on an approved product.


88 posted on 01/15/2022 12:07:15 PM PST by jurroppi1 (The Left doesn't have ideas, it has cliches. H/T Flick Lives)
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To: Triple; DugwayDuke; SeekAndFind; LilFarmer; faucetman; cableguymn; rodguy911; saintgermaine; All

Here is a link from a conventionally respected source—Johns Hopkins.

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-natural-immunity-what-you-need-to-know

Their opinion is that natural immunity fades more quickly than vaccine and booster immunity. One interesting finding: apparently more immunity is conferred if several months intervene between having the illness itself, and then getting the vaccine. Less immunity if a vaccine is given soon after having the illness. Some studies show the immune system needs several months to fully develop the illness immunity effects.

Here is another report (Univ. Nebraska??) which agrees with the above: https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/covid-19-studies-natural-immunity-versus-vaccination

This report lists several studies including that about 1/3rd of infected people develop NO antibodies at all.

FLCCC (Frontline Covid Critical Alliance) has an alternate view of treating the Covid situation. https://www.clarkcountytoday.com/news/boosting-your-immune-system-good-for-all-colds-virus-and-flu-this-winter/

This includes using various medications like Ivermectin that are not officially approved for Covid. They also recommend using various commonly available items like vitamins, minerals, other supplements and certain gargles to enhance immunity and protect from infection. One recommendation is Quercetin, with a caution that some people especially with Thyroid conditions need to observe caution. Since I am on levothyroxin I do not take Quercetin regularly, but use it before getting a vaccine, going to a movie or out to dinner, and for 5 days afterwards. I also use a mask in public and have used J & J vaccine.


89 posted on 01/15/2022 1:31:15 PM PST by gleeaikin (Question authority!)
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To: cableguymn; faucetman

cableguymn wrote: “there’s your problem. you went to the cdc for your “facts” you are convinced the experimental drug is approved.”

You can pretend all you want but the Pfizer vaccine has full approval.

Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration approved the first COVID-19 vaccine. The vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnaty (koe-mir’-na-tee), for the prevention of COVID-19 disease in individuals 16 years of age and older. The vaccine also continues to be available under emergency use authorization (EUA), including for individuals 12 through 15 years of age and for the administration of a third dose in certain immunocompromised individuals.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccine


90 posted on 01/15/2022 3:04:04 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

sweeet!

still not getting it or buying it.

so knock yourself out, you can have mine. approved or not. I won’t be wanting it.


91 posted on 01/15/2022 3:43:05 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: Libloather

Had the covid...took ivermectin...felt horrible but never got a cough, never went down into my lungs.


92 posted on 01/15/2022 3:44:02 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: faucetman

dudes a lost cause.. he believes the cdc/fda.


93 posted on 01/15/2022 3:52:04 PM PST by cableguymn
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To: gleeaikin

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01442-9

Nature - the premier science periodical says natural immunity may be lifelong.

Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime
People who recover from mild COVID-19 have bone-marrow cells that can churn out antibodies for decades, although viral variants could dampen some of the protection they offer. - Nature


94 posted on 01/15/2022 3:58:21 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Brian Griffin

Uttar Pradesh also instituted comprehensive use of ivermectin for treatment and prevention at the same time.

In other areas, without ivermectin, lockdowns alone or with vaccines did not work nearly as well.


95 posted on 01/15/2022 4:01:15 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple

Triple wrote: “ Uttar Pradesh also instituted comprehensive use of ivermectin for treatment and prevention at the same time.”

No evidence suggests a causal link between ivermectin recommendation and the decline of COVID-19 cases in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/no-evidence-suggests-a-causal-link-between-ivermectin-recommendation-and-the-decline-of-covid-19-cases-in-the-indian-state-of-uttar-pradesh/

Ivermectin Didn’t Save Uttar Pradesh From Covid-19

https://gidmk.medium.com/ivermectin-didnt-save-uttar-pradesh-from-covid-19-17684f49d8b3

No scientific basis for claims of ivermectin’s success in Uttar Pradesh, India

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/12/facebook-posts/no-scientific-basis-claims-ivermectins-success-utt/

Other links report the same thing, ivermectin didn’t stop covid in Uttar Pradesh.


96 posted on 01/15/2022 4:25:05 PM PST by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Bs - there are just as many articles saying ivm directly caused the improvement.

Like this very detailed and sourced one. Let the readers decide who to trust.

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/indias-ivermectin-blackout-—part-v-the-secret-revealed/article_9a37d9a8-1fb2-11ec-a94b-47343582647b.html


97 posted on 01/15/2022 5:14:01 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: DugwayDuke

The two are identical and interchangeable. -dd

No the EUA vaccine is not identical to comirnaty.

Even Pfizer only claims that it is the “same formulation”. Same formulation does not equal identical.


98 posted on 01/15/2022 5:19:10 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: DugwayDuke

Or this one from the American journal of therapeutics:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

Conclusions:

Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.

———-//

Dd- why would you lie about the fact that there are significant studies showing ivermectin works? “Other studies show the same thing, ivermectin…” was a lie.


99 posted on 01/15/2022 5:29:03 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: DugwayDuke

There are 2 vaccines...They are legally distinct...

RE: Comirnaty...Have you any direct proof that it is currently being offered? If so, where—which city/pharmacy.


100 posted on 01/15/2022 6:33:09 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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