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Canon printer owners get official guidance to bypass DRM as company is forced to sell chip-less toners
TechsSpot ^ | Humza Aamir

Posted on 01/10/2022 12:29:15 PM PST by BenLurkin

Owners who buy these chip-less toner cartridges should be able to print normally, Canon notes. However, toner levels might be reported incorrectly as either “100%” or “OK” regardless of the remaining quantity, or correctly as “0%” or “Empty” in case the toner has run out. Canon says the chip-less cartridges will start arriving in February, calling them an interim measure in the ongoing silicon crisis. The company expects to resume supply of chipped parts once normal supply is restored.

Given that these cartridges will ship without a DRM chip, they might also have a lower asking price than regular parts. On the other hand, this very attribute and the fact that Canon will likely make them in limited quantities could result in jacked-up, scalper prices. Whatever turns out to be the case, at least Canon is unlikely to face a lawsuit this time around.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: canon; drm; toner
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To: WMarshal

HP..just as bad


21 posted on 01/10/2022 1:18:10 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: WMarshal
Me too. See my #20
22 posted on 01/10/2022 1:18:48 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Vigilanteman

“It is a cool racket. Sell a decent ink-jet with some attractive features for $150 or so, then charge $40 or more for a simple replacement cartridge”

But it can go both ways. People like myself who minimize printing come out ahead, maybe needing one new cartridge every 2 years. But frequent users get killed.

In any case, if they now have to price printers without the possibility of significant financial recovery from media (that’s inside talk), then printers will likely go up in price quite a bit.


23 posted on 01/10/2022 1:20:52 PM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BenLurkin

Will these be cheaper than ones with chips?


24 posted on 01/10/2022 1:23:30 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans ( )
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To: BenLurkin

Did a little research last year and ended up with two Kyocera’s.

An 11x17 color laser duplex office-size machine with printing, copying, scanning, email, 3-1/2 paper trays (M8130cidn) and an 8-1/2x11 BW duplex network laser by the desk with 2-1/2 trays (P2040dw). Very happy with functionality, reliability, and supply consumption with both so far.

Only [very minor] beef is that the 11x17 is a tiny bit less full-bleed than the Ricoh that went before it.


25 posted on 01/10/2022 1:29:14 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: BobL

Plus the other facet to the mfgrs subsidizing the printers with the consumables is that you can afford to have multiple printers for backup or dedicated to different media and you don’t pay much more because you’re not using more ink/toner.


26 posted on 01/10/2022 1:31:22 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Seruzawa

“Plus it doesn’t dry up if I don’t use it for a while.”

Don’t even get me started on that. It seems to cost me $40 every time I need to print a page. I cannot for the life of me remember to do a maintenance print regularly to keep the cartridge alive.


27 posted on 01/10/2022 2:50:00 PM PST by suthener ( )
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To: moovova

look up keyboard mites


28 posted on 01/10/2022 2:52:42 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: Still Thinking
Had 3 epson’s and 1 hp that did the same. Now have a EPSON Tank printer ET-3750. Can see the ink levels up front. Fill as needed, an no chip to replace. Just reset the program level. The tanks are marked to how much ink is left. Easy to refill just the tank that is low. Can also top off the others if desired. A great improvement on the ink problem.
29 posted on 01/10/2022 3:10:40 PM PST by Don_Ret_USAF ("No Government can survive Without The Trust Of The People."er)
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To: suthener

I got a refurbished HP laserjet 1006P for about $300. The cartridges are about $30 and last thousands of pages. It’s black only. Another plus is that you can get parts and repair them forever.


30 posted on 01/10/2022 3:15:19 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Seruzawa

I have a dot matrix. I just reink the ribbons.


31 posted on 01/10/2022 3:23:44 PM PST by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them. )
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To: CJ Wolf

Jeezuz. It’s still working? How old is it?


32 posted on 01/10/2022 3:25:09 PM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Seruzawa

Thanks for the tip.


33 posted on 01/10/2022 3:39:05 PM PST by suthener ( )
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To: BenLurkin

Epsom sells an eco tank printer that you can just add ink and not buy cartridges. I paid $300 for it as I was selling photos and used it regularly. 2 months later, it just stopped and said it exceeded its lifetime (something like that).

You had to take it to a shop to be repaired which would cost more than the $300.

Now I had printed over 500 photos at this time, but was pissed off that 2 months was a lifetime.

Did some research and found a hack online that I paid $8.00 for that reset the counter to 0 and I was able to resume using my printer. I did that 5 more times. That is $1800 more Epsom would have got from me. Total scam on their part.


34 posted on 01/10/2022 4:06:00 PM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: Don_Ret_USAF

Warning it has a chip that will kill it when Epson says it has exceeded it lifetime.

There is a hack for less than $10 online to reset it. Youtube has videos on how to do it.


35 posted on 01/10/2022 4:07:45 PM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: Don_Ret_USAF

Same here, love the Epson. Have found if you leave it on for long periods without regular printing the heads need cleaning. This can also happen if its just turned on for printing. Follow the cleaning instructions and when the test page looks ok let it sit turned off overnight and the quality will be back.


36 posted on 01/10/2022 4:15:05 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Seruzawa

Yep still working. I only use it for black and white text pages. It’s quicker then my cannon ink jet.


37 posted on 01/10/2022 4:19:52 PM PST by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them. )
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To: moovova

—”Praying for a chipless keyboard...”

Looks more like pringle fake potato chips?


38 posted on 01/10/2022 4:36:14 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: zeugma
Yep.

Brother printers are reliable and you can get them in just black and white for office reasons.

Cost more up front but pay for themselves in toner and lack of frustration.

They just do what they are told.

39 posted on 01/10/2022 6:30:05 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: BenLurkin

I had a HP printer that refused to accept refilled cartridges. Finally dumped it for a Canon that does take refilled cartridges, but just hit a limit on the Canon where the tiny little sponge pads that soak up excess ink are supposedly too full. Error message says to get it serviced. I found a video that shows how to remove the sponges, clean them out and replace them, but you have to hard reset the printer to clear the counter so it has to be reset to the wi-fi. Can’t find anywhere to just buy new pads (which look like they should cost a nickel apiece), so I guess I’ll do the cleanup and reset when I get time. Wonder how many folks take their printers to get serviced for this?


40 posted on 01/10/2022 7:29:42 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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