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The Legal and Moral Morass of Mandatory Vaccination
American Thinker ^ | 9 Jan, 2022 | Judah Rose

Posted on 01/09/2022 4:11:49 AM PST by MtnClimber

The COVID vaccines are experimental drugs. Even if the FDA were still functioning as intended and serving a productive role in protecting the public from dangerous products, these drugs are not approved. It is true that the FDA, after putting aside its normal procedures intended to better ensure safety, has approved a version of the vaccines known as COMIRNATY. But as all public health authorities admit, COMIRNATY is not available anywhere. The drug companies cannot accept any liability for the damages their products are causing, because they know full well they would be bankrupted. A fully approved drug would not have the complete liability protection that a drug under Emergency Use Authorization has. That there is an approved version means that under the law, the EUA must be pulled. This is just another law not being followed due to this "emergency." Without the protection of the EUA, there would be no liability protection for the manufacturers. The upshot is that there are no available fully approved COVID vaccines.

That attempting to force me to take experimental drugs against my will is a violation of local, state and federal law, everything from the state and local Human Rights Codes, to the federal ADA, and a blatant violation of my constitutional civil rights, should give you pause in attempting to deny me my assertion of this religious objection. Retaliating, or discriminating against me in any way, making it impossible or just difficult for me to do my job, is blatantly illegal, not to mention morally wrong.

Furthermore, the bedrock of modern medicine is informed consent as an ethical principle, and I believe in ethics. I am now informed about the COVID vaccines. I do not consent.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: communism; rona
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1 posted on 01/09/2022 4:11:49 AM PST by MtnClimber
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2 posted on 01/09/2022 4:12:01 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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I know if I get fired, I’m suing.

Starting in February my work will have testing. Unvaccinated will have to wear masks inside. (luckily I’m mostly outside) This will create second class employees. The cowards at the top have no clue the potential fallout from this.


3 posted on 01/09/2022 4:24:30 AM PST by EEGator
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1. The pandemic is to force you to get the vaccine

2. The vaccine is to force you to get the vaccine passport

3. The vaccine passport is to push you into the social credit system

4. The social credit system is to force you into obeying the government

Emerald Robinson, 2021


4 posted on 01/09/2022 4:50:51 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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it is a legal and moral fact that our society has never compelled treatment.

Well, yes we do: we compel vaccinations of children for all sorts of illnesses and diseases.

But I agree with his overall argument. So my drywall foreman is now a medical expert? Does that seem right to you?


5 posted on 01/09/2022 4:52:20 AM PST by Adder (Proud member of the FJBLGB community: /s is implied where applicable.)
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To: MtnClimber

well written


6 posted on 01/09/2022 4:55:52 AM PST by Theophilus (Thes so-called "vaccines" are the top three comorbidities)
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So my drywall foreman is now a medical expert? Does that seem right to you?

Well, medical doctors can't say what they want about COVID if it contradicts the Fauchi/CDC political narrative or they could lose their license. So, at least with your drywall foreman you can trust that what he says is not just political regurgitation.

7 posted on 01/09/2022 4:59:24 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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But, not if your drywall foreman is enforcing mandates. He is being coerced by the Fauchi wannabes at OSHA.


8 posted on 01/09/2022 5:04:41 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Adder

The difference is “approved” and there is not long term studies available. Hundreds of drugs have been pulled or found to be harmful....years after approval.


9 posted on 01/09/2022 5:11:25 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: MtnClimber
The author has some facts wrong.

Comirnaty is being advertised in the USA by name.

Whether or not the vaccine is actually being drawn from a vial with the Comirnaty label is unknown.

The FDA has asserted that the original Pfizer vaccine and Comirnaty are "interchangeable" - so, it is possible that health providers are still under a legal shield, no matter how the vaccine is labeled.

The author also does not understand that the USA is currently under a Health Emergency, declared by the Secretary of Health and Human Services, which I believe expires in about two weeks.

Under a Health Emergency, all medications and procedures are exempt from civil lawsuits if they have been approved by the relevant medical authorities.

As to the Health Emergency, I think we can be certain that the current media hysteria about Omicron is meant to force Congress to automatically extend the Health Emergency and its lawsuit immunity.

10 posted on 01/09/2022 5:11:57 AM PST by zeestephen
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What would the discussion look like if the mortality rate was, say, 40%?
Vaccinations at gunpoint? No exceptions and no dissent allowed?
I'm afraid we might see it in our lifetime.

11 posted on 01/09/2022 5:18:21 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Nobody wants to play craps with their life!!😠


12 posted on 01/09/2022 5:19:10 AM PST by SMARTY (Republics decline into democracies & democracies degenerate into despotisms. Aristotle)
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If the mortality rate was 40%, and if the vaccine worked, people would get it voluntarily.

Who knows what other gain of function experiments are going on. I would not be surprised if there were more going on. Not at all.

13 posted on 01/09/2022 5:24:20 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Adder

There are two differences though. One is that the vaccines for polio, measles, mumps, etc, actually prevent those diseases, and the second is they have decades of safety records (and, without 75 year lockups of those records).


14 posted on 01/09/2022 5:26:45 AM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: MtnClimber

The Nuremberg Code

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199711133372006

Nuff said!


15 posted on 01/09/2022 5:27:17 AM PST by cranked
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“COMIRNATY is not available anywhere”

https://www.tga.gov.au/batch-release-assessment-covid-19-vaccines

I’m prettry sure all the US vials of EUA Pfizer adult dose vaccine would have passed their expiration dates.


16 posted on 01/09/2022 5:32:44 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: EEGator

“I know if I get fired, I’m suing.”


Likewise, even though I like the family which owns/runs the company.

Your comment hit home because not 3 days ago we were presented with an updated ‘guidance’ on ‘sick’ as it pertains to the virus and the ongoing hysteria (my words). I was already considering a response to clarify my open declaration that “I will not be tested” in conjunction with my in-progress ‘manifesto’ regarding the ‘vaccines’.

But as I type this I’m dwelling on the fact that yesterday I developed a low grade fever. Though I thought it broke, I’m still fighting something last night & this morning, scheduled to work tomorrow.

I am fortunate to have a Conservative ownership/management team, but I’m not stupid and there will be repercussions if some irrational fear by the owner’s wife - regardless its origin...government ‘guidance’ or otherwise - impinges my ability to work. The new company ‘guidance’ grants additional sick days, but I’m not inclined to further enable hypochondria, choosing instead to remain silent on my brief illness.

The declaration by Xiden that “there is no federal solution” disturbed me greatly, as state action by our liberal tyrant is more likely than not when it comes to mandates and/or further restrictions.

I am immune, so ICGAS personally (and have NEVER called in sick, my health has been so good over the decades), but the liability door swings both ways. I feel fine and only have the ONE symptom, but other aspects I’m not including in this comment have me hoping the fever breaks today and there’s nothing more to it.

The virus is definitively endemic and I have zero tolerance for further stupidity on the matter but, as you outline, the effects of said stupidity linger and continue to drive fear-based policies.

“Pushback” is an understatement of the first order.


17 posted on 01/09/2022 5:33:46 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: zeestephen

As to the Health Emergency, I think we can be certain that the current media hysteria about Omicron is meant to force Congress to automatically extend the Health Emergency and its lawsuit immunity.

Congress never passed any legislation in the case of the 1st “emergency”. It’s all been thru executive fiat. Much like declaring wars, Congress has abdicated its responsibility to an ever increasing autocratic control of the Executive branch.


18 posted on 01/09/2022 5:34:14 AM PST by Flick Lives
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To: MtnClimber

Judah Rose against the Philistines.


19 posted on 01/09/2022 5:34:47 AM PST by sopo
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<>"we compel vaccinations of children for all sorts of illnesses and diseases."<>

But the only enforcement system is the government (public) schools - which need to be abolished.

20 posted on 01/09/2022 5:34:52 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (I use an euphemism for "Let's Go Brandon!". It's F*** Joe Brain-dead! )
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