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France hits staggering new case record, Europe’s highest
AP ^ | 05 January 2021 | JOHN LEICESTER

Posted on 01/06/2022 3:34:07 AM PST by blueplum

PARIS (AP) — France announced a staggering 332,252 daily virus cases Wednesday, smashing a string of recent records, as hospitals prepared drastic measures to brace for patient surges and the government strained to avoid a new lockdown.

With Europe’s highest-ever single-day confirmed infection count, France is facing an omicron-driven surge that is dominating the race for April’s presidential election and increasingly disrupting workplaces, schools and public life...

France’s weekly average of virus cases has doubled in the past 10 days...more than 72% of French ICU beds are now occupied by people with COVID-19.

The surge has prompted authorities to allow health care workers who are infected with the coronavirus to keep treating patients rather than self-isolate..

,,, French President Emmanuel Macron heightened tensions with an explosive remark that prompted widespread criticism and was seen as a campaign ploy.

The vaccine push has also prompted tensions in France’s overseas territories. Dozens of anti-vaccination protesters in the French Caribbean island of Guadeloupe attacked a hospital director and other medical staff ,,,

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: covid; europe; macron; pandemic
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To: blueplum

Is it “little O”? If so, nothing to worry about.


21 posted on 01/06/2022 5:55:20 AM PST by I want the USA back (Government is to be feared much more than the chicom virus.)
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To: SmokingJoe

not argued that vaccinated and recovered can catch Omi, but their risk of catching it to begin with is lower and,, but if you look at Australia, Ireland, the UK, etc etc, most of the ICU patients currently are unvaccinated Deltas who are going to have a much harder time of it.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10366795/Majority-Australias-Covid-ICU-patients-Delta-not-Omicron.html
https://www.msn.com/en-ie/health/medical/most-icu-patients-in-ireland-have-delta-variant-of-covid-19-figures-show/ar-AASsT5T?ocid=uxbndlbing


22 posted on 01/06/2022 5:59:56 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum
Your post doesn't make much of any sense.l and doesn't address the figures raised in my link in post #11, which is: The vaccinated are 21 times more likely to catch Omicron than the unvaccinated.
Not only is the vaccine not effective, it could be dangerous to your health, with all kinds of terrible side affects which have been posted here on FR.
23 posted on 01/06/2022 6:19:31 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Silly. the “70% unvaxxed” was in response to a query as to the total unvaxxed ICU population in France at the moment

which the linked article gave as 70%, which sounds like a fair estimate

It was not a statement of the number of unvaccinated in the entire blooming country. geez

France has 11M cases with a 1.2% mortality rate, adjusted down positively only by advances in treatment and vaccination rate. Omi can kill but Delta kills better and it didn’t magically disappear when Omi walked onstage. It’s still maiming and killing those who roll snake eyes.


24 posted on 01/06/2022 6:20:27 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: mewzilla

unvaccinated, breakthrough recovered and breakthrough vaccinated may all spread disease depending on their immune system function, but the protected are far less likely to get infected from any of them in the first place, as demonstrated by the very low breakthrough rate and the very high casualty rate of the unprotected prior to Omi. In the meantime, the superspreader scary story from July 2021 can go to bed now. ;)


25 posted on 01/06/2022 6:21:49 AM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum
— “1.2% mortality rate.”

The definition of mortality rate is properly “The number of deaths per given unit of population over a given period of time.”

I choose the total population as the "unit" and the time as "two years."

If France's population of 65,490,955 evidenced the rate you cited from whatever source you cite, the number of “official” dead would be:

( 65,490,955 x .012 ) = circa 785,891. It is reported by JHU as 125,797 over two years. It is reported by Worldometer as 124,809 over two years.

What are your calculation and data sources? Please show your work, as was said in math class.

France as of 6 January 2022

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/france

( 125,797 “officially Covid dead” French / 65,490,955 population of France ) x 100 = 0.192 %

Less than two tenths of one percent dead across two years of this pandemic. Case-demic now.

26 posted on 01/06/2022 6:34:44 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: alexander_busek

I doubt the testicle percentage figure is accurate. Just saying.


27 posted on 01/06/2022 7:15:02 AM PST by Bayard
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To: Bayard
I doubt the testicle percentage figure is accurate. Just saying.

Didn't want to get overly technical.

The actual figure is 51% +/- 3%.

Regards,

28 posted on 01/06/2022 7:17:34 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek; Bayard

I so enjoyed the chuckle. Perhaps this is all about a test tickle?


29 posted on 01/06/2022 7:35:54 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: blueplum

France is nearly 80% jabbed. Vax sure is working great, ain’t it?


30 posted on 01/06/2022 7:37:37 AM PST by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

the same calculation every one uses to calculate mortality since the beginning of the pandemic- deaths/cases

if it makes you feel fuzzy cozy and safe comparing deaths to the entire population’s risk, go for it. But that’s just pandemic hucksters slight of hand.

The mistake in doing that is, your feel-good calculation ignores the number of protected by acquired immunity who have lowered their risk by magnitudes. Example - mortality for 75yo unvaccinated seniors was somewhere around 800x that of an unvaccinated 30yo. That’s no longer true - vaccinated seniors reduced their risk to that of a 30 or 40yo unvaccinated - less than 1/10 their prior mortality risk.

The good news is, the mortality rate has halved in the past year, and for those admitted to ICU mortality has dropped from 40% dead this time last year to 20% ICU dead. Not because the unprotected got magically stronger, but because of advancements and clearer understanding of the disease gained over the last year. And with 97% of ICU dead being unvaccinated, the risk to unvaccinated who are in pandemic denial and run to and fro without a care actually increases with their risk-taking.


31 posted on 01/06/2022 5:24:50 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: SmokingJoe

Your link references Germany’s numbers, but let’s agree on one thing first - the vaccine was developed for Alpha. Full stop. There is no specific vaccine for Omi. By sheer luck, the Alpha vaccine also works very well preventing deaths and serious illness from Delta and Omi. If there is no specific vaccine, it’s rather petty and dishonest to claim a vaccine that is doing triple-duty doesn’t work - the proof is in the pudding.

Second, everyone has a risk of catching Omi because it is magnitudes more infective than Alpha and 50x or whatever more infective than Delta. Infectivity of a virus has nothing to do with a vaccine designed for a less-infective disease, and everything to do with mutational advances in the virus. Even so, the vaccinated are well-protected from Delta and well-protected from death from Omi. Otoh, the unprotected are more likely to catch Delta, more likely to spread Delta and Omi for a longer period of time, and much more likely to die or be seriously maimed:

“... unvaccinated people had a five times greater risk of testing positive for COVID-19 than vaccinated people and a 14 times higher risk of dying.... As of Nov. 20, the incidence rate of COVID-19 was 450.91 per 100,000 for unvaccinated Americans, compared to 48.02 per 100,000 fully vaccinated Americans with the boosters. The CDC reported that the unvaccinated have a 20 times higher risk of death than the vaccinated with boosters”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/anti-vaxers-try-to-exploit-fears-mislead-people/ar-AASdaun?ocid=msedgntp

“Despite significantly older age in the vaccine breakthrough group, the odds of severe COVID-19 requiring oxygen supplementation was significantly lower following vaccination (adjusted odds ratio 0.07 95%CI: 0.015-0.335, p=0.001). PCR cycle threshold (Ct) values were similar between both vaccinated and unvaccinated groups at diagnosis, but viral loads decreased faster in vaccinated individuals. “
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.28.21261295v1.full

If you’d like to talk about ‘dangerous to your health’ you should read up on what Coronavirus does to your body - even in asymptomatics. Long covid is not a myth. 2-month hospital stays aren’t either. Of course, pandemic grifters and hucksters won’t tell you that truth because if they did, they’d be out of business overnight, now wouldn’t they? Their financial health depends on convincing folks that the disease itself is no biggie and the real dangers are hospitals and medical staff and only youtube ‘experts’ are to be trusted


32 posted on 01/06/2022 6:21:37 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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To: blueplum
Pretty good analysis.

My family got a quite more than adequate taste of that "shipping out" of patients due to COVID (my Mom, in my case) this time last year. She lived over an hour away from us anyway (but we could overnight at her place if necessary) -- the hospital she was sent to was another hour away.) Normally she would have been readily treated and out in ~4 days @ "her" home hospital. Instead she got an ambulance ride for $1000 (not fully covered for some arcane reason.) Plus, added deterioration (she did need quick treatment) probably added a day or two, according to the doc at the destination hospital. Again, mostly paid for by Medicare, but, who's paying for that? Plus the strain on everyone...

33 posted on 01/06/2022 8:10:26 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: blueplum

There must be bodies everywhere.


34 posted on 01/06/2022 8:12:06 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

35 posted on 01/06/2022 8:14:52 PM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: blueplum
Suggestion to use the precise terminology: "CFR" (Case Fatality Rate.)

Since many (including most you are arguing against) also boast that COVID will in relatively modest time infect everyone (with Omicron it's looking like they may be close to correct), those you try to explain to fall into their own trap. ;-)

36 posted on 01/06/2022 8:18:11 PM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: blueplum
— “But that's just pandemic hucksters slight of hand.”

Name-calling is not argumentation.

So many assertions in your retort without citation of sources shows that you act for that “state agenda” of which we earlier discussed.

By mimicking the CDC and FDA, you validate Fauci, Collins, Walensky, and the Biden administration. You response is indeed :slight: of hand.

37 posted on 01/07/2022 5:37:08 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: blueplum

Translate France’s numbers to the YS population (and I don’t see why not) and you have >1.5 million infections per day. Probably more, as it’s highly doubtful even France tests all cases.

(I was about to post “catches all cases” but the pun is just too much!)


38 posted on 01/07/2022 5:40:31 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.; blueplum

Agghh. “US population”


39 posted on 01/07/2022 5:43:05 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: blueplum

Any guesses anywhere as to what % of French cases are Delta vs. Omicron?


40 posted on 01/07/2022 5:44:55 AM PST by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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