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There is only one solution and it is not practical at this time and would come at the cost of a great many lives.
1 posted on 01/03/2022 7:52:17 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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It was stated back in the Spring of 2020 that this would happen. But no, we were told people would get impatient and rise up if it went on for too long. Idiots.


2 posted on 01/03/2022 7:55:02 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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I am grateful the agencies are being this stupid and intractable. It will give newly elected politicians something to show the voters that they are listening. I think there will be a great many positive changes in ‘24 and ‘26. If not, well, we probably will end up in a revolt.

I agree with your take on the agencies’ reasoning. It bothers me no end that every agency gains more and more power and no one reigns them in.


3 posted on 01/03/2022 8:00:45 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud?)
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There is only one solution and it is not practical at this time and would come at the cost of a great many lives.

Yeah, it's time. WAY past time.

4 posted on 01/03/2022 8:02:35 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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There is another principle that aligns with your conclusion - the bigger the mistake, malfeasonce, or crime by government, the LESS likely it will be exposed or admitted.

Small “bad guys” and “bad choices” are exposed in order to creat an illusion that government and its actors are accountable under the law. Big ones? Never, EVER, under any cicrumstance. They take those to the grave.


5 posted on 01/03/2022 8:03:14 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

All this testing all of a sudden....A setup for the Vaccine Mandate case at the USSC on Jan 7th.


6 posted on 01/03/2022 8:07:48 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It’s all political, i.e. mail out ballots.


8 posted on 01/03/2022 8:11:56 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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Fortunately I worked for a federal agency that regularly changed guidance—National Marine Fisheries Service. Fishing quotas were based on population recruitment each year.

But...the NMFS just gets the crumbs left after federal monies have been spent. We had to keep the fishermen fishing or the government would have closed our laboratory. That was a constant threat hanging over our heads.

But for large agencies what you say is true because their existence is guaranteed.


9 posted on 01/03/2022 8:13:11 AM PST by packagingguy
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They need Vax mandates to eliminate the fontroll group. Otherwise the actuarials will expose these lies. The insurance companies will identify the real impact of Vax vs. Non-vax. It’s what they do.


10 posted on 01/03/2022 8:21:36 AM PST by D Rider ( )
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People are freaking out because the CDC has loosened some guidelines which threatens their virtue signaling security masks.


11 posted on 01/03/2022 8:23:35 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE ( ‘When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty.’)
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There is only one solution and it is not practical at this time and would come at the cost of a great many lives.

This is exactly what Biden and the left wanted when he started pushing the mandate -- for crazy people to start suggesting a civil war so the Democrats and the media could have an issue to distract from their failed, Marxist policies.

There are plenty of options:

1)Mandates have been struck down several times in the courts.

2) Either work for a business that doesn't requite the vaccine or move to a red state that isn't forcing the vaccine on employees and doesn't have vaccine mandates for other activities.

All the idiotic, doom-and-gloom nonsense about the vaccines is paranoid and exploiting it is the ONLY hope the Democrats have in the next election. And, they will exploit if it isn't reigned in.

13 posted on 01/03/2022 8:38:37 AM PST by Kazan
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So modify the mandate effective date to councide with the FDA vaccine approval records request document dump in 75 years. That’s their number, not we the people.


14 posted on 01/03/2022 8:45:32 AM PST by blackdog (Jab Dodger. )
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That’s an excellent analysis.

Companies have the P&L statement and fiduciary responsibility to shareholders to fix problems, abandon disasters, and right the ship. Government has no such correction mechanisms for the reasons you state.

I’ve observed that the only thing government will do in the face of absolute disaster is double down on the things that caused the disaster in the first place.

Most of the nation’s problems are caused by government. I’m always astonished that government claims that only it can fix the problems it caused. At age 70, you’d think I’d stop being surprised by that.


16 posted on 01/03/2022 8:59:22 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (81 million votes...and NOT ONE "Build Back Better" hat)
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It’s simple. Just declare victory.
Like we did in Vietnam and Afghanistan.


17 posted on 01/03/2022 9:08:36 AM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting.)
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There is another. Implement the IBM business practice of routinely force ranking all employees and firing the bottom 5-10% every year. No excuses. Either fire or be fired. Re-hire new ones.
At the very least, the bottom ones will turn whistle-blower.


19 posted on 01/03/2022 9:12:27 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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YouTube: Frederick the wise - Elector of Saxony - confers with Spalatin - scene from the 2003 movie - Luther

Frederick the Wise : "Spalatin, there are two ways of saying 'no' to someone you believe to be stronger than yourself. The first is to say nothing, and go on merely doing what you were doing before, and pretend that you never heard, allow time and inertia to be your allies. And the second is to say 'no' in such a kind and thoughtful way it befuddles them. Naturally, if both these strategies fail, there is nothing but to relent. Or... to fight! And of course, if you decide to fight, you also have to decide to win. No, I am not going to send my monk to Rome. They'll only kill him. It's so irritating. Who are they to deprive my university of such a fine mind?"

20 posted on 01/03/2022 9:20:46 AM PST by Theophilus (Thes so-called "vaccines" are the top three comorbidities)
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The government can, it just won’t.

$$$$$$$$


21 posted on 01/03/2022 9:48:50 AM PST by bgill (Which came first, the vax or the virus?)
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Having spent 4 decades in “public service” (Ha!), I can not argue with either point you made. That is pretty much how these things get locked in.


24 posted on 01/03/2022 10:38:55 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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I can think of a “demonstration” that might really have a great effect, and that is if all over the country, in places like NYC, LA, Washington DC, all of a sudden empty nooses started appearing hanging from light poles and overpasses.


26 posted on 01/03/2022 10:47:52 AM PST by matthew fuller (Resist this coercion like it’s slavery. It is. Kevin Homer, MD)
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I gotta agree. I see that principle at work every day in the US government.

Example, financial management offices use a database called DEAMS. (don't ask me what it stands for!) It has cost the government over $6B over the years to use it and try and keep it running, yet it is the most gawd awful financial program anyone has ever used. I've been told that every civilian company that has tried to use it, gave up, because of how badly it runs. Those same companies gave the program a grade of "F" and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Yet, the US gubermint continues to pour millions of dollars into it to try and straighten it out.

So yes, once the the government decides on a course of action, short of someone in the highest office in the land putting the kibosh it, it's either make it or break it, and they usually never make it.

37 posted on 01/03/2022 2:25:26 PM PST by ducttape45
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There is only one solution and it is not practical at this time and would come at the cost of a great many lives.

A steep price, but we have been down that road before.

38 posted on 01/03/2022 2:27:13 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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