Posted on 12/30/2021 3:25:49 PM PST by HKMk23
The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) plans to vote on the Proposed Decision for Net Energy Metering, NEM 3, on January 27th, 2022.
WHY you should care: Homeowners with NEM 1 or NEM 2 were told that their terms were grandfathered for 20 years, this will be reduced to 15 years if NEM 3 passes as written on January 27, 2022…
What does this mean to NEM 1 or NEM 2 clients – after 15 years, you will be forced over to NEM 3 and will NO LONGER GET TOU RETAIL CREDIT FOR THE ENERGY YOU PUT BACK ON THE GRID… EVER AGAIN.
PG&E solar credits will plummet to $0.03-$0.05 per kWh, currently at $0.20-$0.25 per kWh. This will reduce your available credit use to afterhours and change the ROI on your initial solar investment.
(Excerpt) Read more at cleansolar.com ...
So, now the proposal is to alter all the rate tiers, and totally hose everyone who's bought solar in California basis the prior figures.
Biden voters. I don’t care. If they aren’t Biden votes they should move.
It’s about time! Why should the non-solar customers be subsidizing the solar users. If the solar users don’t like it, they can just disconnect from the grid entirely.
“Biden voters. I don’t care. If they aren’t Biden votes they should move.”
Problem is... What happens in Ca does not stay in Ca. It spreads everywhere.
My electric co-op in Texas has always stated that it would only pay $0.01-0.02/kwh.
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What a bunch of suckers. Let this be a lesson to all.
Net Energy Metering has been giving solar users reverse credit for the excess generation they put on the grid for the use of other customers.
Paying the solar owner full rate for that energy costs the utility next to nothing, as they pay nothing to generate it, and the ultimate users of that energy pay the utility full rate for it.
That’s not a “subsidy” by any definition.
Not everyone who uses solar is a Biden voter.
It’d be interesting to know the utility’s raw generation cost per kWh and see how that compares to what they’re paying for solar generated power.
Florida here.
I see it as the utility grid is a battery I pay for every month. Cost some of us almost $40 a month in utility account fees.
The sun makes me 50 kw in the day, while my house uses only 15 kw in the daytime. The other 35 kw I use and pull back at night from the grid.
I don’t see an issue with this, do others ?
As I see it, this is a Free Trade issue. Solar users with net metering are engaged in the active trading of energy, which reasonably ought to trade at the utility’s set rate per kWh.
Whatever excess a solar array generates ought to be equitably transactable in trade at full rate, since other consumers are demanding that energy, and will pay full rate for it.
If solar array owners took any hit at all, it really ought to only be a nominal transport fee to reflect that the power they put onto the grid had to travel grid infrastructure to whoever ultimately used it.
hose everyone who’s bought solar in California
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All new construction requires solar now iirc.
“... nominal transport fee to reflect that the power they put onto the grid had to travel grid infrastructure to whoever ultimately used it.”
Now, transport fees. Might be 100 miles from generating station to house, but when my solar feeds into grid, daytime only of course, the end user of my energy is my neighbor, not someone 100 miles away.
My portion of any fee should be close to zero.
That is exactly right; so everyone who’s factored the economics of solar into the purchase of their new solar-equipped home is REALLY getting shafted.
Talk about portable goalposts...!
I think an engineer and that department’s accountant would disagree.
“...the end user of my energy is my neighbor...”
Yeah, exactly. So I wouldn’t say a “Transport Fee” ought to exceed, maybe, a couple bucks a month.
Basis....?
Fact. Subtract all solar deductions and mandated incentives and it’s a loser.
Fact. Solar is unpredictable. Brown outs aren’t.
I can’t believe someone more eloquent hasn’t already said this and more.
Let’s consider a scenario where 50% of the energy being put onto the utility’s grid is being generated by private solar arrays. Reasonably, it might be asserted that 50% of the utility’s annual lower-voltage transport infrastructure maintenance costs should be borne by that collective of generators.
NOT, mind you, high tension lines feeding from, say, a utility-owned generating plant to a major substation, but the lower-voltage infrastructure of the variety serving neighborhoods; poles, lines, transformers, etc.
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