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Feeling despondent... What can we do?
FR ^ | Dec 28 | Randfan

Posted on 12/28/2021 5:44:47 PM PST by RandFan

As someone who has been opposed to the damn vaccines since day one I'm feeling very despondent at the moment.

Our leaders we look up to are seemingly pro-Vaxx and are doubling down even in the face of mounting evidence that they do not work and are dangerous.

I don't want to come across as some crazy person but the next phase of their plan is to inject newborn babies with these experimental shots and then to mandate them.

When does the madness end?

I can't be the only one who is feeling dismayed about all this.

I'd like to know what we can do?

Continue to educate, post, share (if you can get past social media censorship) and promote the work of people like Dr. McCullough in the HOPE that we can reach the leaders within conservative circles.

We also have to offer them an off-ramp.

I can't for example see President Trump backing down.

He's essentially all-in with his recent comments and positions. Scary stuff.

However I believe he needs to come out forcefully against mandates and the injection of kids and contrast his position against the Biden administration as opposed to being praised by them!

It's not too late for him to do this and sincerely hope he will in the coming weeks.

Apart from that I'm at a loss.

Any ideas on what we can practically do are appreciated...

-RF


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 1trumpvaccine; 2trumpsboosted; 3warpspeed; covidwhining
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To: Safrguns
The level of confidence in his voice made it clear to me that my wisest response could be “well, I was just curious”.

The process used in most medical schools seems to create a mindset of certainty, even when it isn't necessarily justified. So I am not surprised to hear physicians speak with certainty about outcomes, or risks. In their world if only a small percentage of people suffer a bad outcome then they believe that is a success, and the risk is low.

And in a purely scientific way they are right. The risks of the vaccines, and even COVID are not that great for most people. Just like the risk of being shot to death is statistically very small, or the risk of being injured or killed by a tornado. But those risk calculations aren't so reassuring to the families who have lost a loved one. And the risk calculations made by doctors aren't always correct either.

The same kind of doctor who says "I have too much to live for, I don't want to die" is often the kind of pilot who gets in trouble since they think they can get through the weather in their airplane.

101 posted on 12/28/2021 8:09:56 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Nik Naym

Does the vaccine prevent you from getting the Covid? Does the vaxx prevent you from spreading the Covid? Both answers, an absolute and resounding NO! What criteria do you use to judge whether a vaccine works or not? Does the vaxx have serious and significant, even deadly side effects? Absolutely, YES! Do we have any idea how catastrophic these effects will eventually be on people who were misled by the likes of the greatest salesman Big Pharma has ever known? People who trusted Trump and misguided people like you. If you’re going recycle more Fauci, Inc. PR drivel about lessening the severity of my sniffles, don’t bother. I’m in no mood to read more stooging for that worthless and dangerous nostrum.


102 posted on 12/28/2021 8:25:13 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: RandFan

Good news. Trump has many times “forcefully against mandates,” since mandates lack authority and waste time and money.


103 posted on 12/28/2021 8:30:03 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: RandFan

Someone suggested briefly at the end of a longish post to read history and I just wanted to make that point more noticeably because it is very helpful to read about history when the current time seems so crazy.

We have lived in unusually stable and peaceful times. What we experienced in the past is not the norm. As things fall apart, it is unintuitive reassuring to learn that most of the time the situation is worse.

Plus they lived through it all without central heating and other comfortable features of modern life.


104 posted on 12/28/2021 8:33:01 PM PST by Chicory
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To: RandFan

1. Go to church;
2. Marry a church person;
3. Buy land outside the city and farm it. Have at least one protein-producing animal;
4. Have kids at home or a non-intervening birthing center;
5. Homeschool your kid;
6. Sign up to work the polls and/or do counting for all future elections.


105 posted on 12/28/2021 8:56:29 PM PST by JoanSmith
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To: hardspunned

“...Does the vaccine prevent you from getting the Covid?...”
“...Does the vaxx prevent you from spreading the Covid?...”
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Well, I have had my vaccines and I have not had covid,
and if I have not had it, I can’t spread it.

You anti-vaccine folks are an absolute joke to everyone else.


106 posted on 12/28/2021 9:08:39 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I have not had the vaxx and I have not had the Covid/flu/sniffles. Nor have I transmitted any of those maladies. Have you had your first booster yet? Have you had ALL available boosters? You late boosters dip sh!ts are a joke to everyone else. I have not. Have you had any reaction to any of your vaxx jabs or boosters? I have not (although my wife did on both). In five years will you have any adverse effects from your series vaxxes and boosters? Hmmm?? I will not. Yeah, you’re a real sharp guy.


107 posted on 12/28/2021 9:45:54 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

So you say I am a Dip Shit?
Really?
I say that you are unhinged.


108 posted on 12/28/2021 9:49:03 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Oh yeah, Big Pharma loves you for the thousands of bucks the gubmint borrowed to waste on your Fauci, Inc. driven hysteria shots.


109 posted on 12/28/2021 9:50:54 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

Yep.
Your unhingededness is now confirmed.


110 posted on 12/28/2021 9:51:59 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Nothing I said was wrong. Contest the facts as stated. You can’t. Sure, I stand by my allegation of dipsh!t.


111 posted on 12/28/2021 9:53:03 PM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

” I stand by my allegation of dipsh!t.”
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As I stand by my allegation of unhinged.


112 posted on 12/28/2021 9:54:13 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: hardspunned

You sure are up late tonight, Hard.
Can I call you Hard?


113 posted on 12/28/2021 9:57:31 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Too funny, I guess my mother wears army boots too, huh? You can’t defend your position. You don’t even try. You just continue marching along in that Fauci stooge parade. Whenever you have the nerve to try to back up the BS you spew get back to me.


114 posted on 12/29/2021 3:53:13 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned
Don't fret over those who'd rather believe the reassuring lies (the Blue Pill) over facts accumulated over time. This strange flu best beaten by getting it and letting one's own immune system overcome it has been criminally exploited by Big Pharma, it's investors (including many in Congress) and it's willing fear-spreaders in the media. For those old super-villain tropes of power and money.

Citizens dying from side effects? Naturally immune children placed in needless danger from the jab? Just cracked eggs to those profiting from this Made In China chimera.

For a man so beloved I can't understand why Trump has so few trusted people keeping him better informed. It would not hurt him to admit being taken in by Fauci and that pack when he had the overall Office to attend to. A little humility would go a long way for him if he's running again.

115 posted on 12/29/2021 6:02:11 AM PST by MikelTackNailer (Galty as charged)
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To: RandFan; All

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116 posted on 12/29/2021 6:10:09 AM PST by TheRake (If they can force you to wear a mask, they can force you to do other things. Just the beginning.)
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To: RandFan

Can’t help you. I’ve got Larry Hogan as a guvnah.


117 posted on 12/29/2021 6:16:38 AM PST by sauropod (Resident Bidet. A confused old man at the wrong bus stop.)
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To: RandFan

In congress, Rand and Massie, two republican leaning libertarians, plus Sen Johnson are the only covid sane people. Everyone else must have invested in Big Pharma. Corporate America has owned fedgov for a long time.


118 posted on 12/29/2021 6:58:21 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: joe fonebone
President Trump HAS come out against mandates.

Yet remains the #1 salesman for the jabs.

119 posted on 12/29/2021 6:59:30 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: LibertyWoman
Where did our fellow rebels go?

Moved to the country to become more self sufficient thereby rebelling against this sick, dependent civilization that are the population centers.

120 posted on 12/29/2021 7:06:46 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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