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New York Legislation Provides for Indefinite Detention of Unvaccinated at Governor’s Whim.
thenationalpulse.com ^ | 12/18/21 | Kay Smythe

Posted on 12/18/2021 11:37:08 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda

New York Legislation Provides for Indefinite Detention of Unvaccinated at Governor’s Whim.

On January 5th, 2022, the New York Senate and Assembly will vote on a bill that would, if passed into law, grant permissions to remove and detain cases, contacts, carriers, or anyone suspected of presenting a “significant threat to public health” and remove them from public life on an indefinite basis.

Bill A416 presents a serious risk to the basic liberties of all Americans in the state of New York, including their right to choose whether or not to receive medical treatment and vaccinations related to thus far undetermined contagious diseases.

The bill gives the Governor of New York, his or her delegates – including but not limited to the commissioner and heads of local health departments – the right to remove and detain any individuals or groups of people through issuing a single order. The orders only have to include the individual’s name(s) or “reasonably specific descriptions of the individuals or groups.”

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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Assembly Bill 416

8 2. Upon determining by clear and convincing evidence that the health
9 of others is or may be endangered by a case, contact or carrier, or
10 suspected case, contact or carrier of a contagious disease that, in the
11 opinion of the governor, after consultation with the commissioner, may
12 pose an imminent and significant threat to the public health resulting
13 in severe morbidity or high mortality, the governor or his or her dele-
14 gee, including, but not limited to the commissioner or the heads of
15 local health departments, may order the removal and/or detention of such
16 a person or of a group of such persons by issuing a single order, iden-
17 tifying such persons either by name or by a reasonably specific
18 description of the individuals or group being detained. Such person or
19 group of persons shall be detained in a medical facility or other appro-
20 priate facility or premises designated by the governor or his or her
21 delegee and complying with subdivision five of this section.

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34 6. When a person or group is ordered to be detained pursuant to subdi-
35 vision two of this section for a period not exceeding three business
36 days, such person or member of such group shall, upon request, be
37 afforded an opportunity to be heard. If a person or group detained
38 pursuant to subdivision two of this section needs to be detained beyond
39 three business days, they shall be provided with an additional commis-
40 sioner's order pursuant to subdivisions two and eight of this section.

How is this not an unconstitutional violation of the 14th amendment due process clause?

They detain the person on the governor's single order, and then they are "afforded the opportunity to be heard?" How long will it take to be heard? Will they be heard before or after being detained? Who will hear them? What are the possible outcomes from being heard?

14th amendment:

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

-PJ

21 posted on 12/18/2021 12:17:33 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: cuban leaf
I see the US as 50 mostly sovereign nations.

Every Democrat elected to a state office immediately starts working on ceding power back to the Federal level - usually in return for some sort of payoff in Federal dollars that they can subsequently take credit for with their voters.

It's hard to find any state-level representative - (D) or (R) willing to tell Washington: Forget it - we don't want your damned bribe money. The opponent immediately runs ads about how that candidate "Abandoned the state's most vulnerable citizens", and the opponent will "Take steps to secure critical funding to meet our state's needs."

I don't know we can teach voters that Federal funds are a trap for their states. They don't want to believe it.

22 posted on 12/18/2021 12:18:46 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

That can’t be Constitutional on either a federal or state level. This is America, not Australia.


23 posted on 12/18/2021 12:21:32 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Travis McGee

Seems you wrote an instruction manual.


24 posted on 12/18/2021 12:21:34 PM PST by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrativel)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Once the Fed govt got enabled with income tax, and started expanding the scope of govt, it became too good for the states to resist.


25 posted on 12/18/2021 12:21:47 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

This is pure NAZI right here. Genocide is here.


26 posted on 12/18/2021 12:24:22 PM PST by Revel
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda; All
'Experts' struggle to explain why the free state of Florida has half the COVID case rate of masked and vax-mandated California (11.10.21)

Also, emphasizing that I am not medically trained, noting that you can find people in Florida and Texas with vitamin D deficiency, if you live above latitude 37°N, the southern border of Kansas for example, vitamin D3 deficiency is probably a health concern between wintery months of October to February. Consult a professional doctor that you trust about vitamin D3.

Finally, I question if medical history would have turned out better if vitamin D3 had been discovered before vaccines were.

Corrections, insights welcome.

27 posted on 12/18/2021 12:24:41 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The Upstate should secede from the State of New York. Then Staten Island should secede from the City.


28 posted on 12/18/2021 12:24:54 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Another “conspiracy theory” becomes conspiracy fact.

and some folks around here still don’t get it...probably won’t figure it out until they or their own family members get hauled off in the middle of the night.

Remember—the left does not even need a reason—they could even knock on the wrong door, seize the wrong people, and refuse to ever admit the error.


29 posted on 12/18/2021 12:29:26 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

The real question is where do they think they can detain all these people, Prison perhaps and then to what end?


30 posted on 12/18/2021 12:32:52 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Now that the USA is lost, is there ANY free country left in the world? I want to go THERE!


31 posted on 12/18/2021 12:35:42 PM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: faucetman

I think you’re better off being in a remote area of the US or Canada. Northern preferred because it’s a lot of work to keep warm and the Entitlement Army will be heading south.


32 posted on 12/18/2021 12:38:34 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

This is exactly why we have a Second Amendment.


33 posted on 12/18/2021 12:44:31 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Am perfectly willing to make the drive to shoot Communist camp guards to rags.


34 posted on 12/18/2021 12:44:59 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: DugwayDuke

So, have you been to Hugo Boss to have your uniform fitted?


35 posted on 12/18/2021 12:48:27 PM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Didn't they just empty Riker's Island?

-PJ

36 posted on 12/18/2021 12:49:43 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: cuban leaf

I see the states the same way.

Well said.


37 posted on 12/18/2021 1:03:33 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Political Junkie Too; bitt; metmom; Jane Long; LucyT
Political Junkie Too :" ..contact or carrier of a contagious disease that, in the
11 opinion of the governor
(Emphasis mine) , after consultation with the commissioner, may
12 pose an imminent and significant threat to the public health resulting
13 in severe morbidity or high mortality,.. "

ANSWER: Constitutional violation challenge fails under "Arbitrary and capricious " determination.

38 posted on 12/18/2021 1:19:31 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

As Japanese-Americans know, the new law will provide sufficient pretext to round up conservatives.


39 posted on 12/18/2021 1:21:58 PM PST by Jacquerie (,.)
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To: taxcontrol

Unvaxed citizens ought to wear a yellow star or ribbon./s


40 posted on 12/18/2021 1:42:42 PM PST by 353FMG
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