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REDO THE FIRST TWO AMENDMENTS
BOSTON GLOBE ^ | 16 DECEMBER 2021 | MARY ANNE FRANKS

Posted on 12/16/2021 4:12:50 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Speech and guns: two of the most contentious issues in America today, with controversies fueled not only by personal passions and identity politics but by competing interpretations of the Constitution. Perhaps more than any other parts of the Constitution, the First and Second Amendments inspire religious-like fervor in many Americans, with accordingly irrational results.

As legal texts go, neither of the two amendments is a model of clarity or precision. More important, both are deeply flawed in their respective conceptualizations of some of the most important rights of a democratic society: the freedom of expression and religion and the right of self-defense. These two amendments are highly susceptible to being read in isolation from the Constitution as a whole and from its commitments to equality and the collective good. The First and Second Amendments tend to be interpreted in aggressively individualistic ways that ignore the reality of conflict among competing rights. This in turn allows the most powerful members of society to reap the benefits of these constitutional rights at the expense of vulnerable groups. Both amendments would be improved by explicitly situating individual rights within the framework of “domestic tranquility” and the “general welfare” set out in the Constitution’s preamble.

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TOPICS: Reference; Society
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
All people have the right to bodily autonomy consistent with the right of other people to the same, including the right to defend themselves against unlawful force and the right of self-determination in reproductive matters. The government shall take reasonable measures to protect the health and safety of the public as a whole.

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And now for the main point....abortion as it is always with the Left. The inherent desire to be able to murder the unborn....and probably the born in their worldview.

21 posted on 12/16/2021 4:24:30 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: BenLurkin

“..What the Sam Hill is she talking about?...”

Don’t ask her...she doesn’t really know. She’s just spouting off some BS she picked up at the “university”.


22 posted on 12/16/2021 4:24:36 PM PST by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: Lurker

“..Mary Anne is Exhibit 1 in favor of repealing the 19th Amendment....”

^THIS^


23 posted on 12/16/2021 4:25:26 PM PST by lgjhn23 (Pray for America....)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The Amendments known as the Bill of Rights don’t give us any rights. This rights are already ours, endowed unto us by our Creator, or nature if you so believe.

Changing the first two Amendments wouldn’t change that fact. It would only be an attempt to allow government to infringe upon our God- given, or natural, rights.

And to attempt to curtail those rights would be grounds to dissolve a government and establish a new one, per the Constitution of the United States.


24 posted on 12/16/2021 4:26:23 PM PST by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. )
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To: Luke21

scary thing is she’s teaching in a law school.....what do you think the young skulls full of mush are being taught about the Constitution.


25 posted on 12/16/2021 4:26:45 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
the Constitution as a whole and from its commitments to equality

The Constitution exists to secure the blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our posterity.

Liberty and equality are antonyms.

How, then, could the Constitution contain "commitments to equality"?

Nonsense talk.

26 posted on 12/16/2021 4:27:14 PM PST by Jim Noble (The nation cannot be saved until the GOP is destroyed)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I’ve seen people in this forum use “General Welfare” to mean the government has no limits and can do whatever it wants. I worked with a fellow from Guyana who retired from the US Army and believed the same thing. I hope that this isn’t a commonly held belief, especially among people IN the government.


27 posted on 12/16/2021 4:27:53 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

No... your move.


28 posted on 12/16/2021 4:28:00 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: ealgeone

“what do you think the young skulls full of mush are being taught about the Constitution.”

Same thing pretty much everywhere, which is how we get such GOP losers as Roberts, Kavanaugh, and Barrett on the Supreme Court.


29 posted on 12/16/2021 4:28:32 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“As legal texts go, neither of the two amendments is a model of clarity or precision. More important, both are deeply flawed in their respective conceptualizations of some of the most important rights of a democratic society: the freedom of expression and religion and the right of self-defense.”

Neither ... is a model of clarity or precision, eh?
Deeply flawed, eh?
Democratic society, eh?

Where does one begin with this, ah, expert? Hmmm, in the final analysis, it isn’t worth it. She already knows everything, and is obviously wiser than Thomas Jefferson and James Madison.


30 posted on 12/16/2021 4:29:13 PM PST by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: Lurker

16th, 17th, 19th- Three major errors in the amendments. Together they guaranteed the monster state and ultimately something like a Communist regime. The 16th is probably the most critical. The 19th guarantees the feminization of the nation as women in the aggregate tend to vote for protection for themselves and their children which begets the magerial state with nothing to brake it because of the 16th. That is not compatible with the more masculiine cocept of freedom.


31 posted on 12/16/2021 4:30:39 PM PST by arthurus (covfefe **)
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To: G Larry

“Pretty sure the Bill of Rights was divinely inspired and any rewrite would be authored by the opposing team”.

Thread winning post!!


32 posted on 12/16/2021 4:30:40 PM PST by laplata
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Mary Anne Frank, author of “The Cult of the Constitution”.

1st you can say anything you want as long as it’s popular.

2nd you can protect yourself as long as government can disarm you and sanctifies abortion rights.


33 posted on 12/16/2021 4:30:53 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Interpretation:

We want to take away guns from civilians, make islam dominant by suppressing all other religions and then arm the islamists so they can then basically Talibanize the entire country. Free speech and the 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms is preventing this and we intend to transform the United States.

34 posted on 12/16/2021 4:30:56 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Lurker

Mary Anne will eventually end up decorating a lamp post.


35 posted on 12/16/2021 4:31:55 PM PST by Noumenon (Black American flag time. KTF)
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To: ealgeone
...and obligates the government to implement reasonable measures to protect public health and safety:...

And there it is. You think the gubmint has gone off the rails with the phony Covid "emergency"? Just wait until they decide some phantom emergency exists, as in, "too many guns on the street" emergency and then they declare under emergency that all firearms are illegal. And that's when the party really starts.

Whenever Liberals perceive themselves losing they always want to change the rules of the game to tilt the balance FOREVER in their hands. Again we see that the Left never seeks to coexist, they want to crush any and all opposition. It is their inner ruthless fascism that forever wants expression.

36 posted on 12/16/2021 4:32:20 PM PST by Obadiah (Fauci is the golden calf of science.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Wow…

Just…

…wow.


37 posted on 12/16/2021 4:32:23 PM PST by Magnatron
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Dear Mary Anne Franks,

I would redo the first two amendments of the United States Constitution like this…

Any state or federal governmental entity that violates these civil rights will be sentenced to 20 years hard labor.

Sounds good to me.


38 posted on 12/16/2021 4:33:12 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I dunno…..

“…shall not be infringed” is pretty clear.


39 posted on 12/16/2021 4:33:45 PM PST by wny ( )
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
neither of the two amendments is a model of clarity or precision.

... "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." I don't know anyone could make that more clear.

40 posted on 12/16/2021 4:34:48 PM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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