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When not to conceal carry (vanity)
Self | 12/15/21 | ThunderSleeps

Posted on 12/15/2021 4:54:52 PM PST by ThunderSleeps

Subtitle this: how not to be a victim

Leaving the grocery store a little while ago - went through self checkout. There was a couple of young men, maybe early 20s, loitering around speaking in a foreign language. I didn't even recognize the language, let alone understand what they said.

A little odd, given that it was just after five, most people were in a hurry picking up something on their way home from work. As I pushed my cart across the front of the store towards the exit, I heard them about 15 or 20 feet behind me, still speaking in the foreign language.

Something made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, so I did what I usually do - find and excuse to check/verify. Rather than push my cart out, in the entryway I stopped and fumbled with my 3 bags, leaving the cart with the others. My two new friends passed by, but found an excuse to pause on the sidewalk deep in incomprehensible conversation.

As I started out into the parking lot, my buddies took up their position 15 or so feet behind me again. It was at this point I decided I needed to make sure my cell phone was still securely in my back right pants pocket. In checking it, I "just happened" to pull my unzipped jacket back and my hand "accidentally" caught on my shirt, pulling it tight across the 9mm in a holster on my hip. Oops, I accidentally "printed" ... hard. Oddly enough, my two new friends immediately remembered their car was in another row and veered off. Imagine that.


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To: ThunderSleeps
Open carry results in people not starting something.

Concealed carry means you have the advantage of surprise.

There are good points to both.

21 posted on 12/15/2021 6:26:17 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (add a dab of lavender in milk, leave town with an orange and pretend you're laughing with it)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Open carry telegraphs the nar do wells who’ll conceal theirs, here shoot me first.
Quickdraw doesn’t beat a full hand but Gomer Pyle will.


22 posted on 12/15/2021 6:29:04 PM PST by Recompennation (Don’t blame me my vote didn’t count..)
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To: sarge83

Ooh, a Mak! Nice.

I have a Bulgy Mak, but just for fun. One of my carry pieces is a CZ82. The extra rounds of 9x18 Silver Bears are a comfort.

Fortunately, I never had to draw it, but I did reach under my shirt twice.


23 posted on 12/15/2021 6:33:41 PM PST by sevlex
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To: ThunderSleeps

Where do you live? Sounds almost like my little town in AZ.


24 posted on 12/15/2021 6:35:51 PM PST by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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To: ThunderSleeps

A few grains of situational awareness is worth a pound of lead.


25 posted on 12/15/2021 6:40:25 PM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I think your better choice, the minute you had any suspicion, was to immediately draw and shoot both the young men until your magazine was empty, then reload, then shoot anyone else within eyeshot just in case they were in on it with them. Then reload, then drive out of the parking lot shooting anyone else you saw since they might be trying to follow you.

When choosing fight-or-flight, choose fight, then do some meth, then fight some more, then more meth. Then fight.


26 posted on 12/15/2021 6:47:00 PM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Then do some more meth.


27 posted on 12/15/2021 6:47:30 PM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

And then fight. More.


28 posted on 12/15/2021 6:47:53 PM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: Lazamataz

Well, there’s always that.

But don’t forget to aim for the baby strollers.


29 posted on 12/15/2021 6:53:09 PM PST by sevlex
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They’re afraid of being branded the criminal.


30 posted on 12/15/2021 6:58:53 PM PST by Mean Daddy (Every time Hillary lies, a demon gets its wings. - Windflier)
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To: Lazamataz

“And then fight. More.”

You’re not meth-ing around.


31 posted on 12/15/2021 7:03:51 PM PST by Redcitizen
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To: Lazamataz; maddog55; ThunderSleeps

“I think your better choice, the minute you had any suspicion, was to immediately draw and shoot both the young men until your magazine was empty, then reload, then shoot anyone else within eyeshot just in case they were in on it with them. Then reload, then drive out of the parking lot shooting anyone else you saw since they might be trying to follow you.”

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maddog, I think you’ve found your “be more crazy” apprentice!


32 posted on 12/15/2021 7:05:05 PM PST by Uber-Eng (Northern Texan at heart...Help me save Michigan!!!)
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To: doorgunner69

No one paid him no mind.

So in English. Are you trying to say some paid him mind or everyone paid him mind ?


33 posted on 12/15/2021 7:10:21 PM PST by cquiggy
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To: sevlex

Love Silver Bears in the Makarov.


34 posted on 12/15/2021 7:41:49 PM PST by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: maddog55
I’ve found in the past when people think they can intimidate you then you you need to be twice as intimidating and it scares the hell out of them.

I had a couple of guys follow me into a Home Depot after a traffic encounter. I noticed them about 30 feet behind me in an aisle. I immediately turned around and headed for them. They suddenly found many things on the shelves that interested them as I walked past.

35 posted on 12/15/2021 7:48:19 PM PST by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the left, truth is right-wing extremism.⭐⭐)
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To: Lazamataz

LOL, reload... How did you know I was carrying a spare mag? My little S&W single stack 9mm only holds 8+1. I just started carrying a spare mag again.


36 posted on 12/15/2021 8:23:19 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: mylife

He’s right.


37 posted on 12/15/2021 8:39:27 PM PST by sauropod (Meanie Butt Daddy - No you can't)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.’


38 posted on 12/15/2021 8:41:50 PM PST by shoff (Vote Democrat it beats thinking!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

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39 posted on 12/15/2021 10:01:35 PM PST by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' Grandma - multi issue voter up)
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To: mylife

I was leaving the gate at a remote wooded site with my pistol on my chest harness (exposed). Mainly for meth heads, but it would put some hurt on a bear as well.

There was a car across the way, and the guy approached me. Needed some help getting his car unstuck. I let him lead the way while scanning the area. He was stuck, and in talking to him it sounded reasonable. I let him borrow a jack and he did most of the work.

Having the gun visible made me more comfortable in helping him, as I’m guessing (perhaps a wrong guess!?) if he had been a meth head looking for trouble he would have bypassed me.

A friend of a friend was lured into a trap by the methhead girlfriend saying they needed a jump start. The guy shot him and then they stole his car.


40 posted on 12/15/2021 10:26:06 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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