Posted on 12/06/2021 8:23:59 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
John Schneider: "Share this with your friends if they are still apt to believe that a handgun can load and fire itself."
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If it’s shown that by reason if mechanical defect and the happenstance of a live round being in place to discharge when it did, whether the trigger was pulled or the hammer slipped, it’s going to really impress me with the possibilities of karma working in the world. It also opens up questions about the karmic impact on the deceased woman and her family.
I guess you’re right....I was thinking the original owners were related and there was a loose connection between them. I have and have owned quite a few Uberti replicas so my mind went to those, I guess...
If it was a ‘real’ gun as alleged, it must have been a real rattletrap, and why a prop like that would be let onto an insured movie set in that condition, and in the custody of a ‘trained’ armorer, is mind-boggling. But I only watch Hollywood pablum. I don’t live in it.
I don’t think the armorer was up to the task. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that crew spent some time fanning the gun when they were playing in their off time. You saw how solicitous Schneider was about caring for the pistol that belonged to his friend. I’ll bet the opposite was true of people playing with the prop gun.
After reading so much about single action revolvers, that's how I see this incident happening. However, why was there a live round in the barrel or even on the set? And why didn't the young armorer or assistant director double check that gun before handed to Baldwin? It was a perfect storm where so many people screwed up on set.
I've learned from others who have been on movie sets that actors are not the final check if told "cold gun". This young girl armorer not only lost chain of custody for the weapon, plus didn't supervise the guns on the cart in open view and didn't bother with a final check before she handed Baldwin the gun.
Awaiting further investigation, it seems the armorer lost chain of custody. It doesn't matter if some crew went playing/plinking with the weapon and left a live round in upon returning it to the weapons cart. Her main duty was to check EVERY arm for live rounds, dummy round, or blanks before she ever hands it over. She failed.
1. Somebody loaded the weapon with live ammo.
2. AB drew the weapon.
3. He pointed it at the Cinematographer.
4. He pulled the hammer back, while;
5. Simultaneously holding the trigger back.
Of all of those affirmative actions AB performed all of them except #1.
As he was the one holding the weapon, AB was responsible, whether he or somebody else loaded it for its condition. This was a preventable tragedy perpetrated by a man whose careless actions caused a tragedy.
CC
Did you see this thread?:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4017337/posts
If he hadn’t pulled the trigger the hammer would have been cought by the half-cock notch. If he handn’t pulled the hammer back far enough to engage the half-cock notch the cylinder would not have indexed. Next?
No need to share. All my friends are gun savvy and most are excellent marksmen.
You need some serious firearms instruction.
Take a look at a Colt single action hammer and tell me how the trigger is going to let the hammer slip unless the half-cock notch is broken? The gun was not broken. Unless the gun is fully cocked how is the cylinder going to index? How many of you armchair experts have ever disassembled a single action revolver?
And an 1880 (?) Model. The supposition and pure bullpucket that surfaces is sometimes amazing. Next thing we’ll have Smith & Wesson Colts.
I think the big picture is being missed.
He should of not pointed the gun, no matter if he was pissed or if he was kidding around. No matter if the gun was safe or not.
“maybe he’ll learn a little humility and contrition”
That usually doesn’t happen with malignant narcissists. In his mind, it’ll always be someone else’s fault.
That’s what a lifetime of left-liberal Hollyweird nonsense cooks into your soul.
Since Alec Baldwin killed Halyna Hutchins, multiple actors and actresses have come forward and stated that EVERY time they held a firearm on set they or the armorer pointed it at the ground and pulled the trigger six or seven times.
Thanks. Now that I know the model of the revolver I can properly evaluate Baldwin’s statement. I have the cap and ball version, which may have a similar hammer mechanism. I won’t know without a bit more research.
Therefore, any blanks in the pistol would be discharged, and need to be replaced with more blanks. If they just had dummy rounds in the pistol, it wouldn’t matter. But dummies don’t flash or go bang.
They weren’t shooting a scene so there would be no need for blanks in the gun. As far as an actor or actresses not knowing the condition of each firearm they pick up, they could know not to point it at someone and ask “where are the ballistic shields?”.
It would also have been safe if the armorer had loaded one, skipped one, and loaded four. The hammer would have been resting on an empty chamber. I don’t know how many fired shots the scene called for.
Just sounds like sloppiness and laziness all around, in the interest of saving time.
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