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There is a lot of content in this short article. The essential point is government murder of approximately 7 million people by their own government. Dr. Rummel provided a range of 5 to 10 million. So the first thing is for the enormity of Stalin's murder of Ukrainians to sink in.

Secondly, why do we hear so little about the Holomodor? The article shows that three movies have been made. It also provides a scrolling list of Holocaust movies, a very long list. I see no valid reason for this disparity of emphasis. To me a million murders is a million murders. There is no good reason to favor some lives over others.

1 posted on 12/01/2021 6:44:59 AM PST by ChessExpert
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To: ChessExpert

There was a movie called Bitter Harvest. It is somewhere on web or pay per view.
I highly recommend.
The most dead bodies in a movie ever.
But with a happy end of sorts.

Trailer here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKLBp3fZ5zA


2 posted on 12/01/2021 6:56:33 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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In 1932 and 1933, 7 Million (estimated) Ukrainians were massacred by genocidal famine ordered by the Bolshevik government.

More accurately, by Georgian Communist Tyrant Josef Stalin.

For two decades the New York Times, Walter Duranty and American Liberal Socialists heaped praise and ran cover for Stalin, Marxism and their Crimes Against Humanity, winning the Pulitzer "Prize" for doing so.

It is still on display in the lobby of the Times building, NYC.

3 posted on 12/01/2021 6:56:36 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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Ping.


4 posted on 12/01/2021 6:58:28 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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... why do we hear so little about the Holomodor?

Because of American Liberal Socialist Progressive Marxists, and the New York Times style Western Media Bias in favor of Stalinist Socialism.

5 posted on 12/01/2021 7:01:40 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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why do we hear so little about the Holomodor?

Guilt, perhaps, and it’s just too much to take in? I think that’s human.

Or worse, it’s kinda like making sausage.

Their inner karen/marx “knows” deep down that this is the final solution for that frustrating problem of too many inconvenient people, but they don’t want to look at it or watch the sausage being made, so to speak.

I think that’s human evil and I wonder which are we and they now in these times and in this country: Cains or Abels?

6 posted on 12/01/2021 8:27:21 AM PST by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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Stalin took the grain and sold it.

Built some nice buildings on those graves.

Socialism/communism…..always leads to dictatorships…..always.


7 posted on 12/01/2021 8:42:29 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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To: ChessExpert
Same thing happening now.


9 posted on 12/01/2021 9:47:20 AM PST by conservativeimage (Spark up a fire. Light up this place. Burn out this darkness and tear down the fear.)
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The posted article makes several points, including:

“The state of Israel refuses to recognize the Holodomor as a genocide.”

To clear the air a little, it seems that the Ukraine and Israel have some sort of economic/strategic partnership. Consequently, there are positive things today in Ukrainian/Israeli connections.

Nonetheless I find it truly wrongheaded that Israel and some prominent US Jews downplay the Holodomor. Before I heard the term “Holodomor,” I called it the Ukrainian holocaust. A government murders 6 million people, what else would you call it?

Following the links in the article one reads reasons why the Holodomor was supposedly not genocide. I learned a long time ago that there is a big difference between a reason, and a GOOD reason. All the arguments provided are lame, hairsplitting for reasons that are lame in their own right.

The article quotes Putin. Putin is one of the last persons I would like to quote. Nevertheless, Putin says the first Soviet Government was 80% to 85% Jewish. Others have also claimed a large Jewish role in the early days of communism.

As so often, the first question is “Is this true?” and the second is “What, if anything, are we to make of this?”

I don't think the problem is one group or another group of people. The problem is wrong ideas. Socialism is a wrong idea.

Certainly guilt is not inheritable. Today's Germans are not guilty of the Holocaust. Today's Jews are not responsible for Russian communism and its many holocausts. Today's Democrats are not responsible for slavery, segregation, or the trail of tears.

12 posted on 12/01/2021 2:43:36 PM PST by ChessExpert (Vaccines are made from dead or weakened viruses. There is no Covid vaccine.)
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