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When Scientists Get It Wrong
Science Friday ^

Posted on 11/30/2021 5:48:34 PM PST by nickcarraway

A couple of years ago, Julia Strand was trying and failing to replicate a study she’d published. At the time, she was an assistant professor without tenure, and the original study had presented her most exciting finding to date. But when she and her co-authors tried to replicate it, they got the opposite results. Then one night, Julia discovered why. In her original code, she’d made a tiny but critical error, and now, with her reputation and job on the line, she was going to have to tell the world about it.

Science is often said to be “self-correcting”—through peer review, replication, and community dialogue, scientists collectively find mistakes in their work, and continually revise their understanding of the world. But what does self-correction look like in practice? And how likely are scientists to admit they’re wrong?

Julia eventually submitted her story to the Loss of Confidence Project, which invited psychologists to publicly admit mistakes in their published research. Our guest, Julia Roher, a lecturer in psychology, organized the project, along with two others. In an anonymous survey of 316 researchers, almost half said they had lost confidence in one of their findings, but ultimately, only 13 researchers submitted public testimonials to the project.

Brian Resnick, who co-created Vox’s Unexplainable podcast and has written about intellectual humility, explains why we often think we’re right when we’re wrong, how others perceive us when we fess up to mistakes, and what all this means for our trust in science.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: intellectualhonesty; replicationcrisis; reproducibility; research; science

1 posted on 11/30/2021 5:48:34 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

For those who have never seen it, Rupert Sheldrake’s “The Science Delusion”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HybPD0VsFP0

Quick summary: Science has a lot of assumptions that they call “laws”, but nature is an outlaw....


2 posted on 11/30/2021 5:52:16 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: nickcarraway

For those who have never seen it, Rupert Sheldrake’s “The Science Delusion”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HybPD0VsFP0

Quick summary: Science has a lot of assumptions that they call “laws”, but nature is an outlaw....


3 posted on 11/30/2021 5:52:16 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: nickcarraway

Accept a penny of government money and there is no science. Only grant writers.


4 posted on 11/30/2021 5:55:38 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: nickcarraway
In her original code, she’d made a tiny but critical error, and now, with her reputation and job on the line, she was going to have to tell the world about it.

It's called integrity. Regrettably it appears to be increasingly rare - particularly in the "climate science" and medical fields lately.

I've been there, done that. About 5 years ago I made one of the larger blunders of my nearly 4 decade career. I owned up to it immediately upon discovery, we fixed it, and moved on. We laugh about it now because though mortifying (to me anyway) at the time it is in retrospect a funny-as-h**l story.

5 posted on 11/30/2021 5:56:59 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: nickcarraway

Today if someone admits ‘the science’ was wrong it could undermine our trust in science.

In reality Science is not wrong, only our interpretations of what we observe are.

Science cares nothing for money, interpretations however do


6 posted on 11/30/2021 5:58:18 PM PST by algore
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To: Organic Panic

100% correct. Follow the money. Always.


7 posted on 11/30/2021 6:01:18 PM PST by vpintheak (Live free, or die!)
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To: nickcarraway

Ping


8 posted on 11/30/2021 6:01:49 PM PST by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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9 posted on 11/30/2021 6:11:54 PM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

That’ the way it’s supposed to be. No one is perfect. Mistakes will be made. Progress comes through acknowledging the mistakes and moving on.


10 posted on 11/30/2021 6:16:42 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: algore
Today if someone admits ‘the science’ was wrong it could undermine our trust in science.

HMMM. Failure to admit when something is wrong is what undermines my trust in science. Okay, not science, but the current scientific establishment.

Hubris. It's real.

11 posted on 11/30/2021 6:18:20 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

A bunch of idiots agreeing on a wrong conclusion are still wrong.


12 posted on 11/30/2021 6:26:36 PM PST by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: cgbg

“ For those who have never seen it, Rupert Sheldrake’s “The Science Delusion”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HybPD0VsFP0

Quick summary: Science has a lot of assumptions that they call “laws”, but nature is an outlaw....”

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That was excellent! Thanks for posting!


13 posted on 11/30/2021 6:34:24 PM PST by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see #KAG.)
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To: nickcarraway

Some things never change

Let those who have understanding reckon the number of the beast, for it is a human number


14 posted on 11/30/2021 6:36:01 PM PST by algore
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