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Testing "positive"
self | Nov 29, 2021 | fwdude

Posted on 11/29/2021 8:05:41 PM PST by fwdude

So it seems that Bryan Adams has contracted COVID a second time, being fully vaxxed. No symptoms, which begs the question:

Can you test positive for COVID without actually HAVING COVID?

From my understanding, COVID is the illness that's caused by the Corona virus. If you don't experience illness, then you don't have COVID, although you are infected with the Coronavirus.

Am I correct in my conclusions?


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: covid; dumbness
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1 posted on 11/29/2021 8:05:41 PM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude
Yes.

The invalid PCR tests.

2 posted on 11/29/2021 8:10:39 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: fwdude
Is the vaccine itself causing the positive somehow?? By grabbing the virus from someone instead of repulsing it.

We know it does NOT prevent you from getting it.

Pretty confusing.

3 posted on 11/29/2021 8:11:27 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: fwdude

The common cold virus can be a corona virus as there are many many other corona viruses. It’s a large family of viruses. it’s usually nothing to be alarmed about. Take whatever vitamins and what not to fight off colds and sinus problems. Proper hygiene and getting sunshine helps tremendously.


4 posted on 11/29/2021 8:13:20 PM PST by BipolarBob (Save the gay whales. They're an endangered species.)
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To: fwdude

Fully vaxxed means having a damaged immune system with only narrow targeting of the original spike. Any vaxxed, infected person is capable of transmitting a vaxx escape variant to another person. Once vaxxed, you can’t generate antibodies to the full range of antigens on the viable virus particle. Reinfections should be anticipated.


5 posted on 11/29/2021 8:13:28 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Sacajaweau
Is the vaccine itself causing the positive somehow??

I wouldn't think so but you do chase risk when you go into a clinic/hospital environment to get the shot. I avoid those as much as possible.

6 posted on 11/29/2021 8:15:32 PM PST by BipolarBob (Save the gay whales. They're an endangered species.)
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To: Deaf Smith

Yep, if you have no symptoms and test positive, its either a false positive, or because you’re vaccinated (or lucky) your symptoms are mild to non-existent.

The vaccine is designed to keep most of the virus out of your cells where it multiplies and does the most damage. But since it isn’t perfect, you can still carry, spread, and test positive without symptoms.


7 posted on 11/29/2021 8:16:05 PM PST by bhl
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My son’s company tested him once a week, he said It was not uncommon for people to test positive, then negative in the same week. My daughter and her husband both got Covid while wearing their masks of obedience, she tested positive he tested negative and they were both sick. The testing is a joke, but I’m banking on my positive test to carry me through this.


8 posted on 11/29/2021 8:16:43 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: fwdude

I guess I had forgotten how popular Bryan Adams used to be.
This same short article about his COVID has been posted at least four different times within the last week.


9 posted on 11/29/2021 8:16:43 PM PST by lee martell
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10 posted on 11/29/2021 8:16:47 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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PCR swab tests have never been accurate from Day 1. The CDC has known that from the beginning, but has continued to use them all along. They claim they will withdraw the use of those tests as of December 31st, but the question is, do they have a new type of swab test that is more accurate, and if they do, why aren’t they using it now?


11 posted on 11/29/2021 8:18:02 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: fwdude
which begs the question: Can you test positive for COVID without actually HAVING COVID?

Well, if you can die “from COVID” when you actually died of a gunshot wound, car accident, heart attack, stroke, cancer, etc., etc., then yeah, of course you can test positive for “COVID”. You will test “positive” for “COVID” when you don’t have “COVID” (or whatever they’re pretending is “COVID”), 94% of the time you get tested.

EVERYTHING about “COVID” is a LIE.

12 posted on 11/29/2021 8:18:12 PM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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I guess the answer depends on which science you follow. Some reports say there is a very high false positive rate and a very low false negative rate. Is there any way to really prove the veracity of a PCR test? As I recall Elon Musk claims he took 4 tests back to back early on when they became available and reported he had 2 positives and 2 negatives.


13 posted on 11/29/2021 8:18:27 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: fwdude

1. using the PCR test, false positives are possible and common. Depending upon how many cycles they amplify.

2. Can you get Covid 2 times? Not sure there is a factual answer for that.

In my opinion, if you are not vaccinated and recover from Covid, it is highly unlikely you will ever get the virus again.

3. I you are “vaccinated” and get the original Covid you might have a mild case. But if you get one of the Mutation? There is some indication you may get a more severe case. The vaccine protection is very narrow. Natural immunity is broader.

4. There is evidence that every time you take another mRNA injection, it reduces your natural immunity to virus’s in general.

If you are interested I can give you links to some of those points.

Good treatment?

Ivermectin or Quercetin (over counter) are good (HCQ works too), both work on most virus’s. With heavy dose of D-3, Zinc, Vitamin C (fresh squeezed orange juice, with juice of 1/2 a lemon and fresh ground ginger, are better)


14 posted on 11/29/2021 8:20:07 PM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: bhl
You are writing pro "vaxx" to someone who will never get the Experimental Gene Therapy.

I will not take your Mark.

15 posted on 11/29/2021 8:21:42 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Myrddin

I count a total of six inaccurate statements in your post leading to the BSC trophy of the day.


16 posted on 11/29/2021 8:23:42 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: fwdude

Were both “positive” tests after being vaccinated? Or was it one positive before and one positive after being vaccinated? If the latter, I sense a pattern.


17 posted on 11/29/2021 8:24:04 PM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021.)
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To: fwdude

The PCR is actually a laboratory tool not intended to diagnose disease.

The PCR helps magnify tiny amounts of material in samples that would otherwise be missed by researchers. So the PCR exaggerates the amount of material present.

SO if the PCR indicates material is present, it doesn’t mean that it’s the virus (the material identified is too vague), or that it identified a live virus of any kind. We encounter viruses and our immune system defeats them and for awhile, debris is drifting around in our bodies not hurting anything.

So given a PCR, tiny, unimportant amounts of debris can be exaggerated to make it seem like the person has a ‘viral laod’. The PCR doesn’t identify the Covid Virus, the quantity or material present (enough to cause illness?), the stage of breakdown (maybe you fought off a virus a month ago?).

But wait, there’s more. The PCR is not specific to Covid and can identify fruit, Coca Cola and other materials as ‘Positive’ for Covid.
Then, the PCR resutls are influenced by the number of cycles the test runs at. Fauci himself is on film stating that 35 cycles or more renders meaningless results. But they were running them at 40, and later 35 for unvaccinated, lower for vaccinated. That last trick means that the unvaccinated receive greater numbers of false positives to help maintain the narrative. :/

So no, their ‘asymptomatic’ diagnoses were not valid. People without symptoms in this instance, were healthy people. I know there are carriers etc., but that’s not what happened with the Covid PCR.

So they sent people home from work who were healthy, and locked down portions of the nation, stripping us of our constitutional rights based on a fake PCR ‘test’, which was really inappropriate laboratory tool utilized in a way that the inventor, Kary Mullis, said it was not to be used.

This muddies the waters because some people had respiratory illnesses but we dont’ know what they had based on the test. Some people had treatable pneumonia or influenza but if the Covid PCR indicated positive, that person received zero treatment.

It’s evil. And they did know it. And they are still doing it. There is no valid test for Covid. There is no test for Delta. This has to mean there is no valid test for their latest strains.


18 posted on 11/29/2021 8:24:52 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Deaf Smith

Your grasp of eschatology is only slightly better than your grasp of genetics.


19 posted on 11/29/2021 8:25:49 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will. )
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To: gas_dr
I count a total of six inaccurate statements in your post leading to the BSC trophy of the day.

I only count one in yours.


20 posted on 11/29/2021 8:29:19 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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