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wow - 50% vented ICU mortality is way not good. US is around 22% I think. I've never seen an ethnic breakdown of German deaths; I wonder how the asian migrant population figures into the vaccination and morbidity rates?
1 posted on 11/25/2021 11:43:54 PM PST by blueplum
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I know of a fully vaccinated woman who was covid-infected by her fully vaccinated daughter and fully-vaccinated son-in-law.

She passed away 2 weeks ago.

Spare us the Deutscher horse hockey about "the unvaccinated".

2 posted on 11/25/2021 11:47:11 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Did they blame Trump yet?


3 posted on 11/25/2021 11:47:25 PM PST by Mark17 (USAF ATCer, Retired. Father of USAF pilot. ATCers & pilots, the quintessential elements of aviation)
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Most of the deaths related to COVID-19 can be traced back to unvaccinated people...

The mental gymnastics is getting more and more absurd.

6 posted on 11/25/2021 11:57:46 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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There is no ethnic breakdown of data in Germany and I doubt if the virus experts/government folks want to open up that issue.

You can view city by city German data, and generally...what you can say from babies to age 40, the death rate is like .00001. It’s hard from the 100,000 deaths to find anyone under the age of 20 dead from Covid, unless they had a serious secondary illness already existing.

So you go to the German data sets (all public information) and the two key groups are age 60 to 80, and 81-beyond. The death rate for 81-beyond is hovering around 17-to-20 percent, depending on what region you live in. For the 60 to 80 group...it’s close to 5-percent but it’s probably closer to the age 70 to 80, than below.

A Heidelberg pathologist looking at autopsies tried to explain the problem with secondary illnesses/health issues back in the summer, and got shut-down for the most part. It does play into the numbers game.

As for the mortality spike? I would attribute it to three reasons: (1) lesser vitamin D in people in the winter months, (2) feeling of invincibility in vaxed-up people (sold to them via public TV journalists), and (3) significant use of public transportation by urbanized Germans with more chances to pass it around.

One of the more prominent cases was a singer in Germany (fairly well known) who got Covid around end of 2020 (severe case). Around April/May, she got vaccinated (in theory, she would have a ton of antibodies). October came, and she got Covid a second time (severe case). Antibodies from first case dropped like a rock? Value of the vax in the spring...not worth discussing.

As for the hype having value? Key thing is hospital/ICU space and the amount of manpower for the quarantine wards. It was a problem before Covid ever came along. Nurses have been disgruntled in Germany for several decades (pay and respect are chief comments). So they aren’t really manned up to handle this. Some nurses comment that their patience level is peaking out and that stress will be an exit-issue in the next year. No one is suggesting the virus ever going away, and long-term...there’s issues brewing.


8 posted on 11/26/2021 12:26:57 AM PST by pepsionice
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Coma-induced intubation for ventilation is nothing but torture.


11 posted on 11/26/2021 1:27:11 AM PST by Gaffer
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The staggering insanity of trying to vaccinate our way out of a pandemic is seen in the collapse of Europe. Good luck everyone but remember, you’ve been lied to.


16 posted on 11/26/2021 3:21:27 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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wow - 50% vented ICU mortality is way not good. US is around 22% I think. I've never seen an ethnic breakdown of German deaths; I wonder how the asian migrant population figures into the vaccination and morbidity rates?

You make me laugh, bluevax. When confronted with evidence that the vax truly IS the devil and you've been spectacularly wrong this whole time, you retreat and divert to 'maybe its the moslem's fault'.

Its okay to admit you were wrong. Go ahead....

#NiceDiversion

18 posted on 11/26/2021 3:33:44 AM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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Because it’s still being deliberately spread around the world.


20 posted on 11/26/2021 3:39:39 AM PST by jersey117
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Wormwood


22 posted on 11/26/2021 4:57:56 AM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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Singapore’s Intubated in ICU to dead in ICU ratio is 1:1. If you are intubated, its a coin flip if you survive.

Last year, Germans were bragging about how many more ICU beds per capita they had than the US and cited that for its low death rate.

A virus designed in a lab to kill human lung cells does what it does.


26 posted on 11/26/2021 5:43:35 AM PST by UNGN
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Most recent posting to Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resoucre Center shows 100,480 deaths over 23 months.

The updated calculation — official CIVUD deaths as a function of population — is therefore about 0.11 percent. Slightly more than one-tenth of one percent over twenty three months. or, as one notes the beginning when the Drosten PCR test was created in Germany (before the official WHO announcement of a pandemic).

Deutsche Welle is a government news agency, funded by mandated license fees. We paod a yearly fee, quite like the BBC's required payment from the public. "Significantly" more are not dying from this pandemic, if one takes the data being reported by official sources, though the story says otherwise. Under the 2G regime, vaccinayed or recovered, one ends up having to prove one or the other. The later is proven by constant testing. All because slightly more than one-tenth of one percent of the population over a period of almost two years is counted. 0.11 percent over almost two years comes out to an average per year of 0.06 percent. This is the current German justification for its nationwide panic. In the media.

27 posted on 11/26/2021 5:49:04 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Basic math is simple. Real science open to proof and validation. Fear porn theater is a fine phrase/)
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"According to intensive care medics, 90% of the COVID patients in ICUs in Germany are unvaccinated. And the RKI says the chance of survival is only 53% for COVID patients in the ICU once they go on a ventilator, whether vaccinated or not."

There is something odd about these numbers. Pre-vaccine, overall Covid mortality in most advanced countries was usually between 1-2%, with the vast majority of deaths being elderly people with one or more co-morbidities. Going to the ICU seems to be almost a death sentence. The chosen treatments are NOT WORKING!

With two-thirds of the public vaccinated - coupled with natural immunity after nearly two years of exposure - cases and deaths should be way down. Instead, cases are 50% higher than ever, and deaths are higher (and rising) than they were in pre-November 2020. Overall immunity should be above 80%, well above the threshold for herd immunity, yet we haven't hit herd immunity and no one is even talking about it. Something is wrong.
30 posted on 11/26/2021 10:17:02 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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Trust but verify.

I call BS on the death toll unless the medical records and death certificates for the deceased are provided.


36 posted on 11/26/2021 11:00:16 PM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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