Posted on 11/25/2021 12:44:47 AM PST by blueplum
(CNN)The Arctic Ocean has been warming since the onset of the 20th century, decades earlier than instrument observations would suggest, according to new research.
The study, published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, found that the expansion of warm Atlantic Ocean water flowing into the Arctic, a phenomenon known as "Atlantification," has caused Arctic water temperature in the region studied to increase by around 2 degrees Celsius since 1900. Francesco Muschitiello, an author on the study and assistant professor of geography at the University of Cambridge, said the findings were worrisome because the early warming suggests there might be a flaw in the models scientists use to predict how the climate will change...
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I grew up on the terminal moraine the melting glaciers left behind off the coast of what is now Connecticut.
So, as far as I learned in eighth grade, the warming started about 12,000 years ago.
Has something changed?
So we've been warming up for a while.
That's called using the science.
IF climate change and the rising seas were true the Libs should be packing up and heading to the Rockies.
“Arctic ice is growing. they needed a counter.”
I don’t know what to believe.
We had glaciers in the Sierras and they disappeared maybe 12,000 years ago. Was there an industrial revolution then?
CNN...stopped reading right there.
Well, to be real, there are NOT 97% scientists agreeing on global warming! That number is based on flawed survey to start with!
But, yes many/most scientists are grant-seeking sellout!
Anyway, this article somehow admits, that the models may be flawed!
Yet Brandon is pushing us into trillions of damaging projects causing real destruction of environment, just based on flawed models?!
You mean the Arctic Oceans started warming up after the last ice age?
Geologically speaking...the last ice age was “yesterday.”
People getting worked up over the earths cycles do not understand what has happened before—and what will happen again.
Humans, geologically speaking, are a recent phenomenon.
I was so done with the scam artists aka “climate scientists” when they got this wrong:
They only get to get it wrong once—after that I file them in the witch-doctor circular bin.
The name calling and finger pointing (”denier”) is classic intimidation tactics by scammers.
Yep...when I posit that question to the Lefty/Greenies at the office their eyes go into that blank stare. I like to ask them....don’t you believe the science?? LOL!!
Perhaps it has something to do with coming out of the last ice age, where it continues to get warm. Things like glaciers melting happen when not in an ice age. Things like ocean temperatures rising happen when not in an ice age. Maybe it has something to do with the big orange ball in the sky.
These quack scientists don't have a clue, but they are arrogant enough to mislead people with 'concrete facts' which nothing more guesses and suppositions. They rely on models for a inherently complex system and they do not even know the variables involved in the system nor the values of those variables.
Don't get me wrong, I am proponent modeling. I used models all the time as a software engineer. However, people need to recognize the limitation of models. All models are an abstraction of reality. (They are not real.) It wouldn't be a model if it was a 100% representation of an actual system, it would be a clone of the actually system if it were. Because of abstraction, models are always deficient. They lack detail. They are exceedingly deficient when you have no idea what to model and have imperfect data. That is the state of climatology.
Of course CNN can roll out Polar Bears, those cute cuddly animals that infantile minds do not see as a danger, to tweak the emotions of those that do not think critically.
Please God, please let it warm. Give us another growing season to feed the starving. Reduce our heating bills in winter and extend the time we can enjoy the outdoors. My interruption of climate change is optimistic, but then I don't need to use propaganda to obtain climate justice and global Marxism.
Crap Not News , I thought they were going out of business Oh wait Biden is bailing them out
Others who have bought ocean front property AFTER preaching about glo-bull warming and rising seas....
Al Gore
Obama
Biden
Nancy P.
***arctic ice is growing. they needed a counter.***
Remember the 1970s and THE COMING ICE AGE hysteria? There was a plan to mine coal, grind it to dust, mix it with oil and spread it on the glaciers to stop the buildup of ice.
Then there was this....
From POPULAR SCIENCE, Feb 1980..
PS/What’s News ....
page 73
Changing the weather intentionally or otherwise weather modification..(Earth cooling vs Greenhouse effect)
“Do you suppose we can learn enough, soon enough, to pull off a balancing act with the CO2 blanket saving us from another ice age?”
What about the glaciers that created the Great Lakes?
this years RECORD ice flow not withstanding...
I call her Nanzi Pelozi.
I always put my ice cube trays in the oven at 350 for best results.
“Arctic sea ice extent—the area where ice concentration is at least 15 percent—reached its apparent annual maximum on March 5, 2020. On March 24, the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC) reported that the 2019-2020 growth season had an unexceptional finish: 5.81 million square miles (15.05 million square kilometers). It was the 11 th-lowest maximum in the 42-year satellite record.”
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/featured-images/unexceptional-arctic-sea-ice-maximum-2020
Was this adjusted using the East Anglia turd$?
Actually, there are some scientists who are bravely fighting the alarmists.
https://www.heartland.org/
is the best.
I love prof. Happer, the president of CO2 coalition.
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