Why isn’t AFGE filing a lawsuit against the vaccine mandate?

American Federation of Government Employees ^

[ducttape45]

I found this on the AFGE website:

Why isn’t AFGE filing a lawsuit against the vaccine mandate?

AFGE attorneys have thoroughly evaluated the text of the executive order and any potential legal arguments for and against it. No potential arguments or avenues were ignored. However, based on the order’s express provision for exceptions required by law, along with a long line of Supreme Court and other federal cases upholding vaccinations in the interest of public health, as well as other cases foreclosing primary court jurisdiction over a federal union’s challenge to an employment-related executive order, a direct legal challenge or lawsuit over the order is unavailable.

[ducttape45]

I'll tell you why they don't file, IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T CARE!!!! It's because of crap like this that I do not, and will not, ever join a union.

Comments?

[ducttape45]

Vaccine Mandate Ping list, though it’s not your typical article. It is related to it though, in the respect that it just goes to put union corruption on display for everyone to see.

[ClearCase_guy]

Under any normal circumstance, I would say the overwhelmingly dominant philosophy would be: “No one is ever allowed to fire a civil servant.”

You can’t get rid of these people. You can’t fire them, no matter what they do.

Then along comes Magical Joe Biden who just tosses out an EO — “Get jabbed, or you’re fired.”

And Union response? “Hey, there’s nothing we can do! We’re not even going to think about fighting that one!”

Even if the union happens to like the jab, the principle gets established: civil servant who displease the president can be fired. (Apparently.) And I guess the union is suddenly OK with that.

It’s weird.

[98charlie]

It was looked into by a law firm. We were told that we did not have a case.

[Lurkinanloomin]

There are avenues to sue, they just don’t want to because they answer to the same people that operate the meat puppet.

[Lurkinanloomin]

Was the law firm Perkins Coie?

[MAGAthon]

7 Nov: Daily Mail UK: Meet the rogue, no-name politician who has become a crusader for vaccine sceptics and is now a MAJOR threat to Scott Morrison
Queensland LNP senator Gerard Renick has pulled support from Scott Morrison
He wants five demands to be addressed concerning the Covid-19 vaccine rollout
These include a faster compensation scheme for people suffering side effects
He also wants the Federal Government to challenge the state border closures
By CHARLIE MOORE and PETER VINCENT
The 50-year-old, who worked in finance before becoming a LNP senator in 2019, has been sharing stories from people who claim to have serious side effects after taking the vaccine, including 19-year-old Cienna Knowles...
Ms Knowles, a keen horse rider, suffered clots in her lungs, stomach and legs a day after getting her second dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

Doctors diagnosed her with portal vein thrombosis (PVT), which is not a listed side effect of the Pfizer jab, and believe she had a reaction to the contraceptive pill.
But Ms Knowles and her family argue she’s a ‘one in a million’ case of blood clotting - one of several such anti-vaccine stories which Senator Rennick has shared, and which have attracted the attention of the anti-vax brigade.

Senator Rennick has built up a following among anti-vaxxers who lauded a recent Sky News interview in which he demanded ‘immediate income support’ for anyone suffering vaccine side effects.
Under an indemnity scheme announced in August, Aussies who suffer severe side effects can claim up to $20,000 in compensation - but only if the costs of their injuries exceeds $5,000...

Senator Rennick also railed against state and territory governments which have used public health orders to mandate vaccines for workers in certain industries such as health care and construction, despite the Federal Government’s policy that jabs are voluntary.
‘Vaccine mandates need to be lifted immediately. They should never have been implemented but they are going to cause so many issues including labour shortages, endless legal lawsuits, loss of livelihoods, discrimination,’ he wrote.

He also complained about rules which prevent the unvaccinated from participating in society because they pose an increased health risk.
‘Since when was the threat of losing your job, unable to enter stores, go to the gym or cross borders, voluntarily. It’s this kind of double speak that is undermines trust in government,’ he wrote...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10155025/Senator-Gerard-Rennick-withholds-support-Scott-Morrison-Covid-19-vaccine-concerns.html

[proud_dad_of_two]

AFGE is the most worthless union of all unions.

There’s a reason they are getting increasingly desperate to get the younger DOD crowd....the average age of their members is about 73....

[proud_dad_of_two]

You can’t get rid of these people. You can’t fire them, no matter what they do.

I've worked for DoD since I was 19 years old as a contractor (and 17 years old as a military member before that)....you can absolutely fire them, it just takes a while and a supervisor willing to go through the documentation steps.

Porn in the workplace will do it, so will doing drugs and refusing treatment. We've seen an example (well with porn, multiple examples) in the past 3 years where I'm at now. If you are in a position that requires a security clearance and you lose your clearance, they will put you on Leave Without Pay and never bring you off of it too.

[Freedom56v2]

Surrender monkeys?!

[hopespringseternal]

Good lawyer vs bad lawyer. A bad lawyer won’t do anything, a good lawyer will find some angle.

Any professional or organization that fails to represent you should be immediately fired.

My guess this org is run by vax pimps.

[Hodar]

EUO guidelines specifically stated that the vaccine is voluntary and must be accompanied with knowledge and consent. You cannot consent when threatened.

4th Amendment states we are to be secure in our person, property and home without a trial. We had no trial, and no crime was alleged

Further, we have this gem

National Institutes of Health has published a research paper that states that there is NO CORRELATION between vaccine rates and Covid cases.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
There are approximately 3,200 counties and county-equivalents within the United States. Since 2,947 of them, or approximately 92%, show NO CORRELATION between vaccine status and Covid cases, you have no medical or legal justification to terminate my employment for refusing to take an experimental drug that has (a) shown NO SAFETY, (b) shown NO EFFICACY, and (c) for which there is NO CORRELATION with Covid cases.

[98charlie]

No. It was a law firm Border Patrol agents had used previously. Can’t remember the name at the moment but it was not the one you are asking about.

[vpintheak]

My union plans to fight it and back us, the hands, if it comes down to it. Guess I’m lucky.

[Dr. Sivana]

However, based on the order’s express provision for exceptions required by law, along with a long line of Supreme Court and other federal cases upholding vaccinations in the interest of public health, as well as other cases foreclosing primary court jurisdiction over a federal union’s challenge to an employment-related executive order, a direct legal challenge or lawsuit over the order is unavailable.

The government definition of "vaccination" has changed since those rulings were made. The decision did not countenance injected experimental gene therapy when the decisions were made, and a four-bit lawyer would know that.

[grumpygresh]

I want the government lawyers to get as many vaccines as possible.

[dkGba]

Yep duh, MOST government employees are minorities and leftists and lifers in a very generous system- they’ll never rock that boat.