[ClearCase_guy]

Under any normal circumstance, I would say the overwhelmingly dominant philosophy would be: “No one is ever allowed to fire a civil servant.”

You can’t get rid of these people. You can’t fire them, no matter what they do.

Then along comes Magical Joe Biden who just tosses out an EO — “Get jabbed, or you’re fired.”

And Union response? “Hey, there’s nothing we can do! We’re not even going to think about fighting that one!”

Even if the union happens to like the jab, the principle gets established: civil servant who displease the president can be fired. (Apparently.) And I guess the union is suddenly OK with that.

It’s weird.

[proud_dad_of_two]

You can’t get rid of these people. You can’t fire them, no matter what they do.

I've worked for DoD since I was 19 years old as a contractor (and 17 years old as a military member before that)....you can absolutely fire them, it just takes a while and a supervisor willing to go through the documentation steps.

Porn in the workplace will do it, so will doing drugs and refusing treatment. We've seen an example (well with porn, multiple examples) in the past 3 years where I'm at now. If you are in a position that requires a security clearance and you lose your clearance, they will put you on Leave Without Pay and never bring you off of it too.