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Teens charged with murdering Spanish teacher after allegedly admitting it on social media
NY Post ^ | November 5, 2021 | Lee Brown

Posted on 11/05/2021 1:43:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Two 16-year-old Iowa schoolboys have been charged with murdering their Spanish teacher, after one of them bragged about it on social media, according to a criminal complaint.

The body of Fairfield High School teacher Nohema Graber, 66, was found dumped in a park Tuesday hours after she was first reported missing, according to officials.

Her body had been hidden “under a tarp, wheelbarrow and railroad ties” after she appeared to have been killed by “trauma to the head,” court records show.

Officials have not speculated on a possible motive, or given details on what the teens allegedly discussed in the social media messages.

Jefferson County Attorney Chauncey Moulding told the Des Moines Register that there was no evidence suggesting it was racially motivated, but promised his office would “absolutely follow the evidence.”

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: brutes; deathpenalty; monsters; psychos; socialmedia; teens
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To: SoConPubbie

Teacher was Mexican (which could mean of Spanish heritage, or Mexican Indian, or mixture), accused are white.


21 posted on 11/05/2021 2:39:33 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SoConPubbie

uhhh.... women get married. And take their husbands names.


22 posted on 11/05/2021 2:41:26 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: PGR88

He is a better man than me. If someone had murdered my mother I would want to at least return the favor.


23 posted on 11/05/2021 2:46:37 PM PDT by sport
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To: PGR88

Her son, Christian, insisted in a Facebook message Thursday that he had already forgiven the teens accused of murdering “an angel of a woman” who was “one of the kindest souls.”

“I forgive them and feel sorry that they had that anger in their hearts. There’s no point in being angry at them. We should hope that they can find peace in their lives,” he wrote.

His sister, Nohema Marie Graber, agreed, saying, “It is clear that they need more love and light in their hearts.“

Fairfield Iowa is home to the Maharishi School of Management. A significant portion of the town are into TM and eastern religious practices. I’ve been there several times. The commentary by the victim’s children sounds like they’re TM’ers.


24 posted on 11/05/2021 2:57:02 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: MplsSteve
Fairfield Iowa is home to the Maharishi School of Management. A significant portion of the town are into TM and eastern religious practices.

Thanks. Interesting point.

25 posted on 11/05/2021 3:01:47 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: BenLurkin

Wow, those two boys really didn’t like Spanish!


26 posted on 11/05/2021 3:46:19 PM PDT by myerson
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To: BenLurkin

They are punks. They need to fry.


27 posted on 11/05/2021 4:21:28 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: PGR88

They can forgive all they want, these perps still need to be locked up for about 75 years with no chance of parole. Maybe they can visit in Ft. Madison and talk about how forgiven they are.


28 posted on 11/05/2021 6:16:48 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: PGR88

I’m all for Christian forgiveness, but this is just bizarre.


Correct me if I am wrong. I will have to go do my own research after this post.

God presents two positions on forgiveness. A little like always correct a fool and never correct a fool.

One version is forgive, the other is forgive if they repent. I generally prefer the latter when giving forgiveness, and the former when receiving...........


29 posted on 11/05/2021 6:27:25 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I’m more of “an eye for an eye” type person. Maybe forgive first if there’s true repentance, but justice must be served, too.


30 posted on 11/05/2021 6:36:26 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Can you please share where you found this in the Bible?


31 posted on 11/05/2021 6:52:47 PM PDT by 82nd Bragger (Count to four except when in a helicopter)
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To: SoConPubbie

“ Well, given the teacher was white, and the County Attorney felt the need to say it was NOT racially motivated, you can pretty much assume both teenagers are black and it WAS racially motivated. ”

Not at all.
She was a great American immigrant success story.
Was trained as a commercial pilot before coming here from Mexico .
Married a Iowa guy, they had two good kids.
The two punks that killed her were white kids.
It appears the killers were just evil predators .

No need to hang any racial stereotypes on this one.
Evil simply just had its day


32 posted on 11/05/2021 6:58:12 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clinton's )
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To: PGR88

Give them a nice public hanging and then let the Good Lord forgive them. Punks.


33 posted on 11/05/2021 6:59:52 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: 82nd Bragger

Luk_17:4 Even if that person wrongs you seven times a day and each time turns again and asks forgiveness, you must forgive.”

Well there is the one associating repentance with forgiveness.

I will let you do your own much more meaningful research on the forgive in general.

My personal thoughts are that forgiveness is COMPLETE when there is repentance. But sometimes you don’t get completeness, so do your end whether it is repentance or forgiveness.


34 posted on 11/05/2021 7:02:00 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

but justice must be served, too.


yep, forgiveness and repentance does not exclude consequences.


35 posted on 11/05/2021 7:10:23 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: avenir

““They just murdered my Mom in cold blood? All they need is lurve. Hope they find the peace they need.”

Perhaps, they wrote this on a lawyers advice? All the better to ask for justice, rather than vengeance?


36 posted on 11/05/2021 9:21:58 PM PDT by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles., )
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To: Fai Mao

Reasonable. Thanks.


37 posted on 11/05/2021 11:20:37 PM PDT by avenir
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To: 82nd Bragger

The Parable of the Unforgiving Servant

Mat 18:21 Then Peter came to Him and asked, “Lord, how often should I forgive someone who sins against me? Seven times?”
Mat 18:22 “No, not seven times,” Jesus replied, “but seventy times seven!


You did a dangerous thing, you asked a question and made me think.

Most read that verse and think one must forgive and that is true. Including the family in the article.

But read it in context, there is more, the parable following the statement. Accounts must be brought in order. The debtor needs to be confronted to settle accounts.

The goal I think, is still completeness, especially with God. But the order does not matter, sometimes the forgiveness comes before the repentance. BUT WITHOUT BOTH THERE IS NO COMPLETENESS. The accounts are NOT settled.

Your thoughts?


38 posted on 11/06/2021 7:06:09 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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