Posted on 11/04/2021 3:36:38 AM PDT by MtnClimber
The battle was a training exercising but the ramifications of the loss, which reveals the damage progressives have inflicted on the military, are extremely serious.
For many Americans, the Marines occupy an almost mythic place in their minds as an invincible force that runs to the guns and fights no matter what. That’s why it was so shocking to learn that, during a joint training exercise in the Mojave Desert, Britain’s Royal Marines inflicted such a shellacking on the Americans that the latter had to surrender halfway through the exercise. This is a direct result of the Pentagon having gone woke under Obama—something that Trump failed to undo—followed by Biden doubling down on Obama’s policies.
Marines used to be synonymous with dogged determination. Tripoli (1805), the Halls of Montezuma (1847), Belleau Wood (1918), Guadalcanal (1943), Iwo Jima (1945), Inchon (1950), Chosin Reservoir (1950),
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But the Marines have been in war non-stop since 2001 and that’s a long time for a fighting force. At a certain point, rather than experience building them up and strengthening them, non-stop war wears men down. They lose their edge and their fire.
The American military has had another force bearing down on it that may be an even greater enemy than Islamists the world over. That force has been wokeism. Beginning with Obama, the American left has been using the military as a social justice experiment. According to James Hasson, author of Stand Down: How Social Justice Warriors Are Sabotaging America’s Military, Obama purged the officer class of old-timers and brought in progressive ideologues.
Under their aegis, Navy ships went green (when they were just meant to be mean) and bore the names of well-known leftists (gay-rights advocate and pederast Harvey Milk and socialist activist Cesar Chavez, who happened to hate illegal immigrants).
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No argument here.
The debacle that was the last days of Afghanistan proved that there’s an awful problem with US leadership.
The same one that seems to strike every few years. See also: Clinton (no tanks in Somalia, let Osama go) and Obama (ISIS). There’s a pattern there.
But yes, you are correct. Today the left are really threatening to hollow out US capabilities.
Woke politics and the vaccine mandate are terrible own goals. Except that they are not own goals, but attacks by America’s enemies.
Thats crap. The Royal Marines are the baddest fighting force on the planet. Just check this discipline routine out! Lets see our trannys keep up with this powerhouse!
You paint with a wide brush, sir.
The USMC is a scary powerful force, and their philosophy is admirable. But they rely on the competence of their command structure to achieve success. Let us hope a day comes when they are cleansed of political correctness.
I’m sick of being assaulted in every form of media with this woke bull snitt. I’ll paint with whatever brush is handy. I have more respect for Putin than the current leaders of this country when it comes to normalcy. Britain being openly more perverse in their media presentations long before it happened in this country. But we here in America are catching up fast. It’s utterly disgusting.
Depends on the training objectives of the units.
The US Marines have a great big desert training area.
I don’t think desert fighting is their main mission.
They recently got rid of their tanks.
If you take this training opportunity seriously, you will call for a reset.
Grinding down forces for 3 more days doesn’t really teach much.
It’s also a different mindset when you are getting shot with paintballs versus getting shot with lead.
You tend to be a bit more cautious after the first few heads are blown off.
This is a military leadership that is still taking credit for a successful withdrawal from Afghanistan.
USFOR were attrited while conducting an attack, CTC rotations always favor the defender and defensive troops were regenerated continuously, while attackers were not.
So I was in 29 for one of these iterations of royal commandos kicking our butts. They went to the PX and bought cammies and walked right into a planning tent in cammies and listened to our whole plan.
The marines were wearing pink uniforms so made easy targets...of ridicule.
At first I thought USS Harvey Milk was just a joke.
But sadly I was wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Harvey_Milk_(T-AO-206)
Marine Corps Rejects Reports That It ‘Surrendered’ To British Forces During Exercise
The U.K. Royal Marines that reportedly trounced a U.S. Marines Corps unit were actually fighting right alongside other American Marines.
By Joseph Trevithick November 4, 2021
"During this exercise, a U.S. Marine Regiment augmented with subordinate units formed an adversary force to actively challenge and test a peer regiment of U.S. Marines," the Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center (MCAGCC) at Twentynine Palms told The War Zone in a statement. "This training opportunity increased warfighting readiness and interoperability of the U.S. Marine Corps with multinational forces."This is the particularly important immediate context that many of the initial media reports at best glossed over. The Royal Marines were attached to a larger force that included elements of the U.S. Marine Corps itself, as well as Canadian, Dutch, and Emirati troops. The British contingent reportedly worked directly alongside personnel from the Marine Forces Special Operations Command (MARSOC) and the UAE's Presidential Guard, a specialized force modeled after the U.S. Marines, among other elements, for this exercise.
"This training opportunity increased warfighting readiness and interoperability of the U.S. Marine Corps with multinational forces. Exercise scenarios are adjusted as needed to assist commanders in meeting training objectives," the statement from the MCAGCC continued. "'Winners' are never determined. This exercise does not provide an opportunity to 'surrender,' 'keep score,' or 'reset.' The objective of the exercise is to heighten unit performance and increase readiness."
Thanks for the reply. Looks like s sensationalized story to me too with this info.
You are welcome! Anything to make the Military look bad sells, during these Brandon Woke Daze. Seeing lots of articles with inserted click bait phrases to make the story ‘hot’.
Maybe the reporters confused their “research” of mock battles with their watching the early part of “The Dirty Dozen”.
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