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Cashed-up HT Aero promises street-legal flying supercar in 2024
https://newatlas.com ^ | October 24, 2021 | Loz Blain

Posted on 10/25/2021 12:08:53 PM PDT by Red Badger

HT Aero plans to follow up its basic two-seat multicopter with an auto-folding, twin-rotor flying carXPeng / HT Aero VIEW 6 IMAGES

XPeng affiliate HT Aero has unveiled an outrageous flying car design that it claims is "planned for roll-out in 2024." It looks like an electric Bugatti hypercar with a pair of huge, auto-folding props in the style of the Bell-Boeing V-22 Osprey.

Xpeng is a seven-year-old Chinese electric car company that's growing fast, pulling in somewhere around US$2 billion in revenue this year and shipping somewhere around 50,000 cars. It's investing heavily in autonomy and charging infrastructure, while rolling out cars like the P7 that offer more range than Tesla's Model 3, at a cheaper price.

It's also getting serious about urban air mobility. Last week, its "affiliate" eVTOL company HT Aero announced it had raised more than half a billion US dollars in a single funding round. According to the AAM Reality Index, this staggering figure would make HT the fifth best-funded eVTOL company in the world.

Large biscuits indeed – more than three times the cash eHang is allegedly working with. There must be some serious plans going on behind the scenes here, since HT's current fifth-gen X2 aircraft doesn't look all that impressive on paper. It's a very basic-looking eight-rotor coaxial quadcopter design that can carry two passengers at speeds up to 130 km/h (80 mph) for up to 35 minutes.

HT Aero's two-seat multirotor, the X2, is a neat-looking eVTOL but is it worthy of massive investment dollars given the competition?HT Aero A decent start, but most companies on their fifth iteration would start looking at transitioning aircraft capable of flying further and faster with more people on board. Not HT Aero. "Our next-generation model," said Founder and President Deli Zhao as the funding was announced, "will be a fully integrated flying vehicle and automobile, designed for both low-altitude air travel and road driving. We are planning for an official roll-out in 2024."

An eVTOL flying car, then. And what a thing it looks like. This glass-domed electric beast will drop plenty of jaws even before it opens up its gull-winged tail compartment to fold out the two colossal rotors it purports to fly on. Remember those gorgeous future-sportscars Lexus designed for Minority Report back in the day? If one of those married a Bugatti Chiron, and a Dyson vacuum was the neighborhood milkman, the offspring might look something like this.

If it hits the road looking like this – which, frankly, we don't think it will – it'll be a huge head-turner even before the rotors come outXPeng / HT Aero When it's time to take to the air, the props come out of the oversized tail at the touch of a button, then spin up and lift the car off the ground. Yes, this is a viable propulsion arrangement, as evidenced by the military Osprey aircraft, and with those two contra-rotating rotors able to tilt independently, you can achieve full control over pitch, roll and yaw.

Indeed, such large-diameter fans will deliver more efficient vertical lift than most small-rotor designs – which will be critical since there's no winged cruise mode to take a load off the props, and this thing will need to carry all the weight of an auto-folding eVTOL plus all the additional weight of a street-legal electric car.

And herein of course lies the problem. As our good buddy Dezso Molnar has vigorously argued, the fancier these kinds of machines get, the worse they work, the more expensive they become and the smaller the market becomes. This one looks very fancy indeed.

Let's not forget: electric street cars are already heavy. Tesla's Model 3 is around 300 kg (660 lb) heavier than, say, a Toyota Corolla sedan, because lithium batteries simply weigh a lot. That's OK, because cars don't need to lift themselves off the ground. The energy requirements for half-decent flight endurance in a vehicle like this will be pretty brutal; if HT's little manned multicopter will only fly for 35 minutes weighing in at just 560 kg (1,235 lb), then you're not going to be flying real far in something much larger and possibly four times the weight, with a road-going electric powertrain, braking, steering and suspension systems, airbags, crumple zones and everything else you need to certify a car for street use.

The propulsion system is similar to that of the V-22 Osprey, and can deliver relatively efficient vertical lift with full pitch, roll and yaw controlXPeng / HT Aero What's more, a two-rotor system gives you basically zero propulsion redundancy. Not that electric motors fail often, but the consequences here will be dire unless you're flying high enough for the built-in ballistic chute to do its thing. One shudders to think what the grueling dual car/eVTOL certification processes will cost, one wonders what kind of licensing will be required in order to fly it anywhere of practical use, one muses over whether there's more than 50 genuine buyers out there for this kind of thing, and one shudders again thinking how much it might cost.

Still, here we are. There's very little detail available at this stage, which perhaps bodes poorly for a 2024 rollout date. But HT Aero has half a billion dollars in the bank, and has announced that this is its next model. We sure can't argue that these renders don't look cool, although the pathway to production has brutalized many a concept drawing.

Indeed, don't get us wrong, we'd love to see these oversized monsters pulling off the highway, folding out like Swiss Army knives, wobbling their way off the ground and flying away into the sunset just as much as anyone else. It just seems like a completely bizarre business idea to throw 500 million bananas at. Time will tell.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Military/Veterans; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: automobile; aviation; faa; jetsons
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1 posted on 10/25/2021 12:08:53 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; Wright is right!; ..

Aviation Ping!.....................


2 posted on 10/25/2021 12:09:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Lot of physicians gonna take their last ride in that thing.


3 posted on 10/25/2021 12:25:05 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

LOL...instead of the “Fork-Tailed Doctor Killer” it will be the “Slicer-Dicer Doctor Killer”!


4 posted on 10/25/2021 12:27:35 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists are The Droplet of Sewage in a gallon of ultra-pure clean water.)
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To: rlmorel
Seriesly.

I'm not getting in that thing.

What do you do when you get to your destination? Toss the keys to the valet?

I don't want it near me.

5 posted on 10/25/2021 12:35:30 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Red Badger

Wonder if the Moller will fly before this one.


6 posted on 10/25/2021 12:35:41 PM PDT by Hazwaste (Socialists are like slinkies. Only good for pushing down stairs.)
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To: Red Badger

Seeing how many total idiots are behind the wheel of flatlander vehicles, this can only produce total chaos.


7 posted on 10/25/2021 12:40:29 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Buy a Let's Go Brandon! sticker. Show your disdain for the maniac in the White House. I did.)
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To: Red Badger

It would be handy the next time a BLM protest shuts down the highway.
You could fly over, or shred your way through the crowd on the ground.


8 posted on 10/25/2021 12:40:59 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ( ‘When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty.’)
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To: Red Badger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hGjl3zcJMk


9 posted on 10/25/2021 12:45:16 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Hazwaste

Airbus will be flying commercial in Dubai before anyone else. They have a functional prototype already and Dubai has cleared them to use their airspace. They certainly have the funds for million dollar plus EVtols. The Emiraties all get checks from the govt they have some of the largest disposable income per capita in the world.

https://www.dubaiairshow.aero/airbus-unveils-new-evtol-aircraft


10 posted on 10/25/2021 12:50:20 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Red Badger

It’s a Chinese company. If you protest against Emperor for Life Xi it’ll shut off mid-flight.


11 posted on 10/25/2021 12:55:38 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red Badger

Wow! What a great opportunity to dump all my Theranos profits into...


12 posted on 10/25/2021 1:06:08 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Red Badger
An air car is pretty much guaranteed to be pretty bad at both driving and flying. Better to have a dedicated STOVAL or VTOL flight vehicle and a conventional car. Gonna be cheaper and almost certainly cheaper. That thing will not by on the market by 2024, at least not in the US market - 100% certain of that.
13 posted on 10/25/2021 1:16:47 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: Red Badger

Once I reached adulthood I realized that flying cars will never be practical as anything more than a rich man’s toy, unless massive technological advances take place. And we’re nowhere near that yet.

They will have to improve by a couple of orders of magnitude before any government will allow tens of millions of them to be in the air at any one time. And even then there are the privacy and other issues of those on the ground.

So dream on.


14 posted on 10/25/2021 2:17:22 PM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: Red Badger

yep. can hardly wait to get in a Chinese flying car ...


15 posted on 10/25/2021 3:15:28 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: billorites

Definitely has the look of a doctor killer...they could have put a V-tail on it to complete the picture...


16 posted on 10/25/2021 3:18:48 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino

How many single points of failure do you count?


17 posted on 10/25/2021 3:43:16 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

Enough that there’s not a snowball’s chance in Hell that I’d ride in that thing.


18 posted on 10/25/2021 4:07:52 PM PDT by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino
These things are wonderful examples of engineering.

Just because we can build them, doesn't mean we should.

When I fly an airplane and the engine stops, I have a plan.

Helicopter pilots have a plan too when they lose an engine. It's a shitty plan, but it offers them some solace up until the point of impact.

19 posted on 10/25/2021 4:15:32 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: larrytown
"What a great opportunity to dump all my Theranos profits into..."

Yes, these are all the same people.

20 posted on 10/25/2021 4:17:31 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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