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To those who still pretend that the 'Covid Vaccine' is 'safe and effective', where's your evidence? Please refute Steve Kirch's report and provide 10 years of data.
10/18/2021 | vanity

Posted on 10/18/2021 5:27:19 PM PDT by ransomnote

ransomnote: Below, I posted my response to one of countless posts to me stating that I post Covid content without merit in order to push 'an agenda'. The name of the freeper this time is irrelevant because other have said the same thing. 

Freeper: This is a tour d’force of maybes, ifs and allegations that uses one theoretical allegation to build on the next.

You and others on FR working to keep the Plandemic alive rely on inuendo and allegations. To support the 'narrative', your content supports an entire fabric of lies.

* You imply 'Covid' is far more deadly than it is. Even the CDC admitted in May that 94% of "Covid" deaths are persons with an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint: they died of other things). It's not just the US that has ridiculously inflated 'Covid' death tolls.

Lisbon Court Rules Only 0.9% Of ‘Verified Cases’ Died Of COVID, Numbering 152, Not 17,000 As Claimed
greatgameindia.com ^ 

* You insist there are no treatments and so you push the vax. Ivermectin, HCQ work around the world, but you say they don't.

Dr Robert Malone @RWMaloneMD | Peru-> last half of 2020. Mortality dropped 14 fold over 3 months with Ivermectin, rose 13 fold when Ivermectin removed

C19Protocols – Reducing Risk of COVID-19 Infection and Severity

A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment
aapsonline.org ^ | December 11, 2020 | Jane M. Orient M.D., & Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D.

* You pretend the 'Covid' tests are valid.

FDA document admits “covid” PCR test was developed without isolated covid samples for test calibration, effectively admitting it’s testing something else
fos-sa.org ^ | August 2, 2021 | Naomi Wolf

* You pretend the Delta variant is behind the 'surge' and is reason to get the vax.

Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin emailed the CDC to ask them how they are verifying what variant is dominant. This was their answer. Thoughts?
Twitter ^ | 7/29/2021 | Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin

* Overall, your firm support for the 'narrative' indicates your belief that Fauci/NIH/CDC are telling the truth.

"Conspiracy theorist" Robert Kennedy Jr. explains relationship between world’s most powerful doctor Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci [2 minute Video]
twitter.com ^ | April 19, 2021 | Camus @husserl80

Bill Gates, George Soros and others are driving the CDC's medical Tyranny with Private Donations to CDC Foundation. We have to reject the CDC to free ourselves.
5/3/2021 | vanity

You pretend the entire basis for China Biden's Plandemic is legit while posting as a conservative on FR. 

You are never skeptical about the 'Plandemic Narrative' no matter how many reports surface around the world contradicting it; you have no doubts or questions for the CDC. When real people come forward, put their reputations and credentials on the line, and pierce the 'Plandemic Narrative', you say they're fake and it costs you and your annonymity NOTHING.

You ridicule real doctors with impressive accomplishments who are saving lives with their safe, effective treatment protocols and education. It's war and you just happen to prefer ALL of the key talking points of those working to destroy us.

Mind you there is no meaningful data in your claim or any claim.

ANY CLAIM. Just a blanket denial. Fauci supporters always start by saying that anything people write against the Plandemic has no meaning, isn't real etc.

Plandemic Indoctrination [watch movie free, free to download] Includes notes on 7 minute sample excerpt of the movie: Clip 03 Turning CoronaVirus from a pathogen to a profit
freedomplatform.tv ^ | August 18, 2020 | Dr. David E Martin

The CDC and NIH use the same tactic. Pretend there is no evidence and then say things like, "We're not aware of any reason why pregnant women shouldn't get the 'vaccine....' That will be their excuse - they weren't aware.

As the public wakes up, the Faucists and CDC supporters are preying on a smaller and smaller number of people who haven't woken up.

Karl Denninger runs the numbers on Market-ticker.com. Please write him and explain how his statistics which show 1.2 million people of working age are missing from the job market are wrong, because he doesn't want it to be true. He keeps asking someone to explain it to him; he doesn't want to be right. But be careful; Karl knows what he's talking about, has been crunching these numbers for  years, and he's not impressed with fake and/or anonymous credentials, medical degrees etc. 

There are unsubstantiated allegations.

Americans are doing a good job of pinning our domestic enemies to the floor with facts. The CDC has simply stated over and over 'those facts don't exist', just like the corrupt traitors in Congress and the MSM keep stating there is no evidence of 2020 election theft.

The CDC, Pharma etc. don't respond to public inquiry or answer questions. They flat 'overrule' the public while behaving as if they are our overlords; they shall determine who 'gets' to claim facts, and who 'gets' to be threatened, censored silenced and smeared.

The weaponized medical establishment fell into a stunned silence and was unable to refute the information presented by Steve Kirsch, even the part where he offers 1 million dollars for NIH/CDC/FAUCI to debate him on the facts. Our enemies did what you do - they ignored him.

Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

I'm amazed you and others who push (shove) the 'vaccine' are not concerned with all the CDC's 'unsubstantiated allegations'. Why aren't you skeptical of their edicts and pronouncements?

You and your buddies in the CDC are thoroughly unconcered that the Covid vaccines were tested briefly and have zero interest in long term effects. A 'normal' year might have 300 deaths post vaccination, but since Covid, were' way up in the thousands and you're yelling "SITUATION NORMAL!" You never ask the CDC or NIH or Fauci for evidence to prove anything- you just PUSH and SHOVE THE VAX.  

I am my colleagues have seen no vaccine injuries hospitalized.

You and other fake anonymous doctor 'colleagues' pretend to work in magical hospitals with patient populations which magically conform to the 'Plandemic Narrative'. The rest of America, and the rest of the world is living in reality where the vaccinated are being infected, spreading the infection, being hospitalized and dying in increasing rates. You will pretend this information does not exist.

Infection Rate in Vaccinated People in Their 40s Now More Than DOUBLE the Rate in Unvaccinated, PHE Data Shows, as Vaccine Effectiveness Hits Minus-109%
Daily Sceptic ^ | 15 October 2021

More deaths from vaccinations than from Covid-19 in Taiwan
FreeWestMedia ^ | October 17, 2021 | Staff

Latest UKHSA report shows Vaccinated accounted for 80% of Covid-19 Deaths and 60% of Hospitalisations in the last 4 weeks
theexpose.uk ^ | 10/16/2021 | The Expose

Real doctors put their profession and reputation on the line to save people, and you and other anonymous, fake doctors predictably attack him/her. You've never said anything approving of those who are taking  a beating, unduring threats and suppression, and censorship. Why not at least refute their evidence, instead of ignoring it? Because you can't.

THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT Version 1.0 [Outstanding, one-of-a-kind collection of critical medical, social and survival aspects of our enemies' tactics and goals] PDF at link
stopworldcontrol.com ^ | 9/26/2021 | John Sorenson and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko

Dr. Ryan Cole: weakening our immune system, e.g., since Jan 1, the lab has seen a 20 times increase of endometrial cancer (Transcript and link to two minute video)
Twitter ^ | Aug 25, 2021 | Dr. Ryan Cole via @ToTheLifeboats

There is no massive uptick in unexplained deaths. If the roughly 355 million doses of vaccination used were producing even a fraction of that which you claim it would be overwhelmingly evident. Where are the bodies?

There is a massive uptick in unexplained deaths. And sadly, many have injuries - they are flooding the hospitals now and they are falsely classified as 'unvaccinated'. Obitituaries now simply say "sudden illness".

Fox News Whistleblower: My Boss Told Me ‘Do Not Report Deaths After Vaccination’ [includes my notes on first 12 minutes of video]
banned.video ^ | Aug 5, 2021 | The Alex Jones Show, Ivory Hecker

BOMBSHELL: British Funeral Director John O'Looney: Deaths Skyrocketed '300%' After Covid Vaccine (Video)
RAIR Foundation USA ^ | October 14, 2021 | Renee Nal

Respiratory Therapist Blows Whistle: "I'm Watching People DIE" (15 minute video) [He and others meet Oct 23, Noon at the State Capitol in St. Paul, Minnesota to walk to Gov's Mansion
rumble.com ^ | October 12, 2021 | Stew Peters, Mark Bishofsky

WARNING: NURSING HOME WHISTLEBLOWER, "PATIENTS DYING LIKE FLIES AFTER VACCINE"
brighteon.com ^ | January 28, 2021 | Brighteon User: Contrarian

Witnessing the harm done by vaccines explains why so many medical people and first responders are willing to lose their jobs rather than volunteer for biowweapon injections. 

And in you snd your followers chronic posting of every breathless and unsubstantiated claim as gospel fact, it is becoming nothing more than irrelevant noise.

The plain fact is you want people to believe penumbras and shadows as gospel truth while attempting to deny the obvious. It has and is failing as the chronic drumbeat is gathering little movement.

Oh come on - the blind belief in 'gospel truth' is what your leaders, Fauci and the CDC, live by. They never prove anything. They're out there urging children and pregnant women to get a toxic experimental vaccine for a highly treatable illness to which the young are not succeptible. Instead - they push the vax. 

Your numbers are grossly inflated on logic that is faulty. You have no data. Just rantings of those with an agenda and yet you post it as if it were gospel fact. You have selected what conclusion you want and are working back from that conclusion trying to force things to for your narrative. It’s why there is zero clear evidence supporting your beliefs.

Refute Steve Kirsch's valid, defensible information and win 1 million dollars. You can prove him wrong, prove me wrong, AND win 1 million dollars! DO IT! 

Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

I'm not making up data, I'm quoting experts with evidence the CDC, NIH, and FDA pretend don't exist. Zelenko, McCullough, Dr. Merrit and others are saving lives, and the CDC won't acknowldege them, other than to attack them, and won't even advise the public to make sure they get enough Vitamin D to cut RISK.

FReepers are sharing stories of 'vaccine' harm you also ignore.

LilFarmer: "I have noticed many posts of personal experiences with adverse reactions to the vaccine and thought it would be helpful to put them all in one place."
8/24/2021 | LilFarmer

It is also why I’m order for you to to be correct. That all but the dirty dozen of physicians who you regularly quote would have to be in on some conspiracy. Every physician including my colleagues on free republic would have to be coordinating our stories and lying.

Those the Biden machinery attacks are now deemed the 'dirty dozen'? Want to include all the others the Biden regime is attacking? How about the Jan 6 political prisoners he's taken. Are they 'dirty' too? Who says they are dirty? The CDC/MSM/NIH/Fauci...and YOU.

You and your fellow fake doctors are pretending there is no suppression or censorship. You know who else believes there's no censorship or suppression of medical evidence? The CDC and Fauci. Funny how that always happens, eh?

Dr. Hoffe was threatened for asking why his 900 patients, which he vaccinated, had higher rates of vaccine harm that didn't match Pfizer's trial claims. He was issued a gag order, his hospital privileges were stripped, he lost half his income and his clinic burned down. Anyone who stands up to The Plandemic Narrative is viciously attacked - and you pretend there's just a 'dirty dozen' out there making up wild lies and attaching their names, reputations to them for no reason.

But all you and your group have is that we are lying and other people have said….
Well if you believe some whistleblower with no direct clinical presence you must lend equal weight to those of us who are dismissed as anonymous physicians who are probably lying

WORLD-WIDE EVIDENCE refutes you. Clinical evidence, first person accounts, successful physicians who stand in front of a camera and take the abuse to get the word out. Entire nations report their populations are responding well to Ivermectin, the safety and efficacy of ivermectin/HCQ are extensive and well known, and then read you and your anonymous, fake doctor 'colleagues' insisting Ivermectin is useless. I'm supposed to believe fake anonymous doctors pushing the Fauci party line?

Your story has more wholes than Swiss cheese. You just are blinded by your agenda to see it.

The CDC/Fauci/NIH are weaponized. You and your kind either quote Fauci or his sources, attack the messenger or change the subject. Where's your report to refute Steve Kirsch's report?

You and the CDC et. al. pursue an agenda that is damaging the US and that's not something you regret. 

The CCP may treat its ardent supporters who are shoving the vax like they are important loyalists, or special now, but they don't mean it.

Video: Communist Professor Declares That U.S. Was Defeated In ‘Biological War’ With China CCP affiliated researcher says China “put the U.S. back in its place”
summit.news ^ | May 19, 2021 | Steve Watson

 



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To: Leep

See, someone gets it!


201 posted on 10/19/2021 6:58:23 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: adorno

Remember. If it’s posted on a internet message board it’s always true


202 posted on 10/19/2021 7:00:06 AM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans ( )
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To: phoneman08; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi; greeneyes; ..

Borrowed from freeper Enlightened1:

According to a member of the FDA’s vaccine-advisory panel who voted in favor of the plan, the FDA approved the introduction of Moderna mRNA booster shots based on “a gut feeling” rather than “really truly serious data,”

From The Wall Street Journal, “Moderna Booster Shot Backed by FDA Advisory Panel”:

Vaccine experts advising the Food and Drug Administration voted 19 to 0 Thursday to recommend authorization of an extra dose of Moderna Inc.’s MRNA Covid-19 shot, a key step in making booster doses available to millions more people.

A vaccine-advisory panel voted in favor of giving a Moderna booster shot at least six months after the second dose, to adults 65 years and older, as well as adults under 65 who are at high risk of severe Covid-19 or serious complications because of their jobs, living conditions or underlying medical conditions.

[…] Members of the FDA’s vaccine-advisory panel supported Moderna’s booster dose even though the evidence for it was from a small study and had mixed results.

“It’s more a gut feeling rather than based on really truly serious data,” said Patrick Moore, a member of the committee and a professor of molecular genetics and biochemistry at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. “The data itself is not strong, but it is certainly going in the direction that is supportive of this vote.”

In related news, the founders of Moderna just made their debuts on Forbes’ list of the 400 richest Americans.

Is this what they mean when they say they “follow the science”?

In related news, the founders of Moderna just made their debuts on Forbes’ list of the 400 richest Americans.

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1446354937596817423


203 posted on 10/19/2021 7:14:53 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Oh yeah. Once again you treat us to your expert medical analysis. The Q School of Medicine tells us what’s what!


204 posted on 10/19/2021 7:22:04 AM PDT by Pelham ('Viruses don't exist' is the latest variant of Flat Earth theory)
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To: Pelham
Medicine isn't necessary to notice that a quote from six months ago, when the jabs were starting, isn't current.

That being said, you still managed to overlook it or suppress it or forget it or something.

Your ad hominem will not save your argument.

BTW, what are your credentials?

205 posted on 10/19/2021 7:26:49 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: blueplum; ransomnote; Jane Long; bitt; bagster; numberonepal; Cletus.D.Yokel; Cathi; greeneyes; ...

The vaccine is effective all right.

https://imgur.com/a/Obshnsj

Not posting the pic because of language, but multiple first-hand accounts of side effects.


206 posted on 10/19/2021 7:31:22 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Pelham
Oh yeah. Once again you treat us to your expert medical analysis. The Q School of Medicine tells us what’s what!

When everybody knows us rubes should listen to the Fauci-Pelham Medical Institute for Ants.


207 posted on 10/19/2021 7:40:23 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: ransomnote

Excellent! The class of “protein subunit” vaccines gets exposed as a treasonous plot by the ever vigilant Q School of Catlady Medicine!

No covid test. Delta doesn’t exist. I love it.

Have you met Dr Grey Whiskers? She may be an esteemed professor in your field.


208 posted on 10/19/2021 7:41:28 AM PDT by Pelham ('Viruses don't exist' is the latest variant of Flat Earth theory)
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To: grey_whiskers; Pelham
BTW, what are your credentials?

Attorney-at-law, if I'm not mistaken. Did I get that right, Pelham?

Oh, and he binge watched 'Grey's Anatomy'. Twice.

#FollowTheScience


209 posted on 10/19/2021 7:44:12 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: grey_whiskers

The lack of data is why the FDA didn’t give blanket approval for boosters to all age groups.

It makes perfect sense to have approved use for the most affected groups given the small sample size.

If the FDA were as corrupt and actively concealing deaths from the vaccines as some would have us believe, they would have rubber-stamped vaccines and boosters for all age groups.

I know it’s fashionable to assume everything CDC is bogus. And of course, they have been political in much of their contradictory guidance. But understand, the biggest complaint I and many others have is they have been far too quick to ignore liberty in the name of reducing sickness and death.

Yet we’re to believe the CDC and FDA wish us all dead by them pushing for vaccination to end the pandemic which is the very thing giving this administration and its allies in government the excuse to step on our freedoms?

Not only would one have to believe that the CDC is somehow missing or covering up all these vaccine cause deaths being fantasized, but every first-world government on earth is too.

Below is the CDC Adverse Events page. The order of magnitude by which they would have to be lying or wrong for much of the fear-porn so many are willing to gulp is incalculable.
https://www.wsaz.com/2021/08/16/health-officials-how-delta-variant-cases-are-determined/


210 posted on 10/19/2021 7:44:44 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdz oncmccRthym,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: Pelham
Do you argue this angry in court, Pelham?

Poison many juries? You're starting to sound like Gassie, all perturbed like. Is it because your covid/vax psyop is being exposed?

#TheWallsComeTumbinDown

#TumblinTumblin


211 posted on 10/19/2021 7:48:01 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: phoneman08
We get it, Phoney.

You're a sucker of the first magnitude. Tell us something we don't know.


212 posted on 10/19/2021 7:55:00 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: phoneman08
Remember Vioxx? Safe and effective, and for awhile, the #1 seller?

Only got pulled after 5 years due to 180,000 heart attacks.

And that was a simple painkiller, not an EMERGENCY CRISIS WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE OH NOES.

Run the math and you'll soon figure out, the average doctor wouldn't see any peak from 180,000 heart attacks. But the excess adverse events were still there.

How much more so when doctors are being "encouraged" not to report, and to tell their patients there's no such thing as adverse events?

Argument from incredulity is not a valid syllogism.

213 posted on 10/19/2021 8:01:35 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: bagster
And the people dead from the vax appreciate it very much.

What about the millions of people who are still alive because of the vax? You think they might be appreciative?

The 'vaccine' was approved for emergency use, and though many people don't want to accept the term emergency, it was an emergency to those scared of dying from the virus.


214 posted on 10/19/2021 8:05:10 AM PDT by adorno
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To: phoneman08
I know it’s fashionable to assume everything CDC is bogus.

🧀

I posted that to you earlier this morning.

Like Fauci, like Biden, you continue to lie: because it isn't merely "fashionable" (you deliberately use neurolinguistic programming to confuse people and bolster the lie that this is a mere semantic difference of opinion, in prep to sliding the next step to "those who disagree are kooks"): it is proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the CDC has been lying all along.

Someone re-post that clip of Fauci saying "safe and effective" and the montage of the effectiveness dropping from 100% down to the 39% or so range.

215 posted on 10/19/2021 8:08:44 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: adorno
Facts Trump Feelings.

But instilling mass panic has long been known as a manipulative technique used by those who wish to rule without boundaries on their power.


216 posted on 10/19/2021 8:10:44 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: adorno
What about the millions of people who are still alive because of the vax?

Prove it.

...it was an emergency to those scared of dying from the virus.

Thank you for being one of the rare ones that admit the vax compliance is contingent on government stoked false fear implanted in the masses.

You're very close to discovering the truth. Keep thinking.


217 posted on 10/19/2021 8:15:02 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: grey_whiskers
But instilling mass panic has long been known as a manipulative technique used by those who wish to rule without boundaries on their power.

No question that's a technique used by those who want to rule through fear.

But, was Trump trying to rule through fear when he advocated for and funded the Covid vaccine development?

People can be fearful of a lot of other things that have nothing to do with government mandates or edicts.
218 posted on 10/19/2021 8:16:43 AM PDT by adorno
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To: grey_whiskers

Oh for God’s sake. Don’t put me in the untenable position of defending those morons.

That said, look at the dates. Both were true at the time, pre-delta. And thankfully, even against this far more infectious variant, protection against hospitalization and death while not perfect remains very good.

More on how the delta variant has affected perceived vaccine efficacy: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.10.08.21264595v1


219 posted on 10/19/2021 8:18:22 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdz oncmccRthym,.dadfjl,dz )
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To: adorno
But, was Trump trying to rule through fear when he advocated for and funded the Covid vaccine development?

Are you smart? Some of these vaxtards, while fools, are also smart. Trump is smart too. Smart people can be suckered.

Trump knows this is a Chinese bio attack and an act of war committed by China and our own domestic derp enemies. He got suckered into playing politics when he got pummeled with 'blood on his hands' right before an election. This is called 'realpolitik'.

The fact that vax rabbits on the right now use Trump as justification for their rabbit-hood is a sucker's play. Besides. Do you do everything you're told?

Rhetorical question. I already know.


220 posted on 10/19/2021 8:26:18 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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