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Please Explain. Exactly Why Do We Have a Shipping Crisis?
10.04.21 | Chickensoup

Posted on 10/04/2021 3:52:37 AM PDT by Chickensoup

Please Explain. Exactly Why Do We Have a Shipping Crisis?


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KEYWORDS: economy; shipping; shopping; supply; supplychain; trade; vanity
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To: central_va

Something tells me that longshoremen and truckers are making more than minimum wage. And didn’t Kalifornia set their minimum wage to $15/hr?

I don’t buy the wage argument one bit.


81 posted on 10/04/2021 5:49:17 AM PDT by rarestia (Repeal the 17th Amendment and ratify Article the First to give the power back to the people!)
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To: mad_as_he$$; Chickensoup
All caused by COVID plandemic.

1) It predates covid

2) You left out the Teamsters and the ILU.

82 posted on 10/04/2021 5:49:33 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: mad_as_he$$

Your explanation doesn’t go far enough.. what is the root cause?

Did half of truck drivers die?
Or did half of them get sick for two weeks throughout the past 17 months and stay home? People get sick all the time for 10 days to two weeks.
Did the trucking companies crush half their trucks and trailers?
Did all the Sikh truck drivers go back to India?
Did all the truckers sit on their asses due to welfare payments?
Did the end of NAFTA curtail Mexican trucks and truckers?
Did half of refineries shut down and there was no diesel fuel to be had?

I have yet to hear a satisfying and logical explanation of what is going on and what caused it.


83 posted on 10/04/2021 5:50:20 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I believe the best social program is a job” ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: central_va

But we are not talking IT wages are we? We are talking govt assistance vs lower wage jobs. Again, is $15/hr to wash cars too low or is the govt teat too generous?


84 posted on 10/04/2021 5:51:40 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: BobL

You can literally tell by looking whether a container ship is empty or full...that’s how easy it is to prove/disprove what you’re saying.

There are a dozen other less direct ways to tell also (fuel consumption, transit speeds, shipping company financials, etc)...not to mention the 1000s of people working crews and ports.

Get a grip son...


85 posted on 10/04/2021 5:54:31 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Ever put a container on a scale, man? They are damn heavy, with or without cargo. And all of the ships out there are fully loaded with containers.

It’s not as easy as you may think.


86 posted on 10/04/2021 5:58:54 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Chickensoup

Hi Chickensoup:

Please watch this video, entitled, “Cargo Ship Dilemma: How This Will Impact You in Significant Ways”, just created on Saturday (2 Oct 21):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEdKaEVNg3M


87 posted on 10/04/2021 5:59:08 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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To: whitney69

Wow - a reasonable answer on FR. Thank you.


88 posted on 10/04/2021 5:59:28 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: BobL

Winter is coming.


89 posted on 10/04/2021 6:01:31 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith)
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To: Chickensoup

Aging Port infrastructure that desperately needs to be updated but is continually resisted by the Longshoreman’s union.

Too much is shipped to us. Shipping to US Ports is at record highs due to the US Fed easy money polices and the Us Federal government out of control spending


90 posted on 10/04/2021 6:01:49 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Thermalseeker

I agree with much of what you say. I think there is a lot to be said about the limitations of the criminal mind.

However, I have also thought that the trade with the US may be coming to a head in China. The US dollar was becoming worthless even before Biden. China was plowing its worthless IOUs from the US into expansionism in Africa and South America. If China’s money became the world currency they were angling for, America’s debt and value as a trading partner would go up in smoke, I would think.

In any event, China is probably on one of those “5-year-plans” and is committed to the outcome.


91 posted on 10/04/2021 6:02:56 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: BobL

Fact is we make too little and buy too much from China as well as other countries.


92 posted on 10/04/2021 6:03:10 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Chickensoup

We import too much. I would prefer we assist Mexico to do the low cost labor manufacturing - it would help their economy and would reduce dependence on China and shipping.


93 posted on 10/04/2021 6:03:44 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: whitney69
The state, Newsome, has forced a total sanitizing of areas and equipment at each shift change which takes hours to accomplish and has thus extended the unloading wait at each change.

And like good little sheeple they just follow right along.

94 posted on 10/04/2021 6:04:22 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: VTenigma

China has an even worse back up at her ports

It not and deep wicked plot. It the sheer stupidity of the US Fed and the US Government spending and easy money policies


95 posted on 10/04/2021 6:04:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

“Fact is we make too little and buy too much from China as well as other countries.”

I give the labor unions credit for that situation. If they weren’t around, there would have been a far lower need to offshore (and load up with illegals too).


96 posted on 10/04/2021 6:05:32 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: Clutch Martin

“Operators have been known to repaint their depth markers to avoid corrupt charges”

Crazy, man!

Have you gone to google maps and looked at the Long Beach harbor? Thousands of containers on the ground. Been that way since before the covid pandemic.


97 posted on 10/04/2021 6:10:12 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: Teflonic

That pure 1970s era Marist dogm wihotu a clue of a hint of a notion of a fact.

The manufacturers invoice the buyers when the goods ship. They see no profit from their being stuck on ships.

They also lose ground because of the 80-20 rule. You never put all your procurment eggs in one basket. You spread about 20% around to secondary suppliers. So if a mythical business is “sitting on supply” it customers are busy shifting their purchasing to their 2d and 3rd level providers. All the hording business is doing is losing market share and thus profits.

While those ships are off shore the crews still have to be paid, the owners of the goods still have to pay their financing for their plants and equipment, the workers have to be paid etc etc etc. All of that outgo is not being balanced by income while those goods sit stuck on ships.

The same problem for the domestics disruption. All their bills still have to be paid while no income comes in because they do not have any goods to sell. So all this disruption is a cost for business that will never be off set by inflation on prices

This lie about the “supply chain being choked by bad actors” is just Biden Democrat public relations nonsense designed to deflect and distract attention off the logical consequences of the US Fed’s easy money and Us Fed Government’s out of control spending polices.


98 posted on 10/04/2021 6:11:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

.Gov always blames “greedy corporations” after wild .gov spending sprees turn into inflation.

This is Jimmy Carter-land all over again....yawn.


99 posted on 10/04/2021 6:13:46 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Chickensoup

Not only do we have a shortage of all the people who move/transport/unload these things, but all the ports are highly affected by “Covid protocols,” meaning a worker shows symptoms or tests wrong and he’s off for a week to 10 days.

Multiply that by THOUSANDS.


100 posted on 10/04/2021 6:14:09 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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