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Please Explain. Exactly Why Do We Have a Shipping Crisis?
10.04.21 | Chickensoup

Posted on 10/04/2021 3:52:37 AM PDT by Chickensoup

Please Explain. Exactly Why Do We Have a Shipping Crisis?


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KEYWORDS: economy; shipping; shopping; supply; supplychain; trade; vanity
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To: rarestia

Did Cali people approve every unemployment claim like passing out candy?

Is Cali still paying the extra $300/wk on top of unemployment?


101 posted on 10/04/2021 6:14:39 AM PDT by Pollard (PureBlood)
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To: Chickensoup

Another thing I just found out

There has been a push to have US ports work 24 hours 7 days a week. That plan has been killed in CA by Labor unions.

Why they would oppose adding thousands of workers is a mystery I cannot explain.

A few ports in the US on the east coast are going to 24-7 operations.

24-7 operations is normal process for ports in Europe.

So a big problem is how we run our ports has not kept up with the volume being shipped to the USA


102 posted on 10/04/2021 6:19:30 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: rarestia

That because you are wise and he is not

The average Longshoreman salary in California is $64832 as of September 27, 2021, but the salary range typically falls between $55474 and $74125.


103 posted on 10/04/2021 6:22:32 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: mewzilla

But they will order them in to provide health care.


104 posted on 10/04/2021 6:25:02 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

A lot of truck drivers did not die but a lot of them retired. Part of the problem with an aging population. Lots of people retire every day now.

There are still a lot of open truck driver jobs. Not just anyone can be a truck driver. It takes time and training to mange a big rig safely

Is there a truck driver shortage in the United States?
In 2019, the U.S. was already short 60,000 drivers, according to the American Trucking Associations. That number is anticipated to swell to 100,000 by 2023, according to Bob Costello, the group’s chief economist.Aug 2, 2021


105 posted on 10/04/2021 6:26:13 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: mad_as_he$$

In other words, because this baseless administration wants it.


106 posted on 10/04/2021 6:30:23 AM PDT by mcshot (OMG! Really? WTF! I don't think we're OK. Is that the drain I see?)
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To: mewzilla

China never owned the Port of Long Beach. The Chinese company COSCO had a 40 year lease to operate the container terminal. That lease was sold to the Australian company Macquarie Group Limited who still runs it today.


107 posted on 10/04/2021 6:47:48 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: BobL

Have you ever heard of a plimsoll line?

They use it to determine the depth a container ship be safely loaded.

You can’t load a ship with empty containers and not see the difference...its not physically possible.


108 posted on 10/04/2021 6:52:33 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

I’m fully aware of the markings on ships. How many have you, personally, inspected?


109 posted on 10/04/2021 6:53:47 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: BobL

A 10ft container weighs approximately 2,645 lbs. Fully loaded that container tops the scales at almost 23,000. I will be back in Corona del Mar today overlooking the southernmost anchorage of the vessel backlog. I’ll pull out the binoculars again and really check how low in the water the ships are. Although I can tell you they weren’t sitting high last time.

Your suggestion is ludicrous. You remind me of people talking about oil tankers dumping fuel out in the desert back in 1979.


110 posted on 10/04/2021 6:56:17 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: MNJohnnie
Part of the problem with an aging population. Lots of people retire every day now.

The baby boom retirement crisis has been predicted for decades.

Now that it is here, a lot of folks are staring at their shoes and saying "what happened"?

;-)
111 posted on 10/04/2021 6:59:50 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Any truck drivers on this thread ?


112 posted on 10/04/2021 7:02:54 AM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

It will be interesting to hear what you find.

I suspect that you know a fully loaded container can weigh far less than 23,000 lbs and not all containers are fully loaded. And, by the way, you may want to check your numbers on empty weight.


113 posted on 10/04/2021 7:08:39 AM PDT by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's, I just don't tell anyone, like most here.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Your suggestion is ludicrous. You remind me of people talking about oil tankers dumping fuel out in the desert back in 1979.

Yep same lie just a different context. An empty container would cost the same to ship as a full one. No one is going to waste billion shipping empty containers around.

If there was some dark evil plot this well funded and this well organized it would simply not ship them at all.


114 posted on 10/04/2021 7:14:48 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: T.B. Yoits
They expected genius IT staff at admin wages.

Because IT did not (and still hasn't) made the case that it deserves a voice in the C-suite. It is seen as a service, like electrical work or drywall or landscaping - the company needs it but senior execs don't see any reason to overpay in a market flooded with alternative providers.

115 posted on 10/04/2021 7:15:59 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: BobL

I looked those numbers up. If they’re wrong please post the discrepancy. Regardless of the exact figures I’ve been behind enough big rigs here in Southern California to know that the tare weight of a container is a fraction of the capacity. Obviously not all fully loaded containers max out to capacity but you’re nuts if you think the container typically weighs more than the load. I also doubt that very few are shipped less than full. That makes no sense, just like your conspiracy theory.


116 posted on 10/04/2021 7:18:32 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: cgbg

My brother actually came out of early retirement to drive truck again.

He decided to retire early 3 years ago because he was fed up dealing with the BS local and state government put truck driver thru as well as dealing with fly by night employers.

His buddy convince him to unretire and come drive with his company. He been doing it about 8 months now and is busy as he can legally be.


117 posted on 10/04/2021 7:18:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: cgbg; MNJohnnie

Good point about the wave of looming boomer retirements which has been known about for decades. I can see where COVID just gave the final nudge to people close to retirement so we got a huge wave of simultaneous retirement rather than the slow and steady stream of on-going retirements.

That brings to mind another explanation. For decades, the government has been pushing everybody to get a college education to the detriment of vocational schools and trades. So not only do we have massive retirements, the pipeline of new workers is empty.

Of course, we now have millions of cadres steeped in social justice, racism, grievance mongering, protesting, firebombing, and attacking police plying their trades. These are the people who not long ago would have been tradespeople and truck drivers.

The government making “free” money available for absolutely useless college degrees in “Studies” really fouled things up. The ridiculous “strengthening the social safety net” by government made people lazy and no longer lean and hungry.


118 posted on 10/04/2021 7:19:34 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I believe the best social program is a job” ~ Ronald Reagan)
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To: wgmalabama

I contract to have loads hauled and my brother is a truck driver. If you have a question I can find a driver to ask


119 posted on 10/04/2021 7:19:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (They would have abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: MNJohnnie

Where are all the business owners crying that their product deliveries never arrived even though the container hit the port days before?

There aren’t any.


120 posted on 10/04/2021 7:23:31 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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