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Did Lt. Col. Scheller deserve the treatment he received?
American Thinker ^ | 2 Oct, 2021 | Rajan Laad

Posted on 10/02/2021 5:24:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Let's take a look at both the rules and the applications of the consequences for those who break them.

Since August this year, U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller had earned both fame and notoriety when he posted a series of videos questioning the military's leadership following the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan and the devastating suicide bombing at the Kabul airport, which killed 182 people, including 13 U.S. service members, and injured more than a hundred.

I have been fighting for 17 years. I am willing to throw it all away to say to my senior leaders: I demand accountability. People are upset because their senior leaders let them down and none of them are raising their hands and accepting accountability and saying, ‘We messed this up.’

He unsparingly criticized Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and Joint Chiefs Chairman General Mark Milley for their incorrect predictions that the Afghan National Security Forces would be able to withstand Taliban attacks and for the closure in July of Bagram Airfield,

He continued to post videos stating that the military needed a 'revolution' evoking former President Jefferson's famous quote: 'Every generation needs a revolution.'

He also demanded “fundamental change” to America’s government and pledging to “bring the whole f***ing system down”

Scheller urged his viewers to abandon divisiveness and fear. He also said that President Donald Trump “divided the country,” while Barack Obama was “weak in any intestinal fortitude,” and finally Bill and Hillary Clinton were “morally bankrupt.”

He then announced his resignation from his commission after 17 years of service which meant giving up his pension.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: communism
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1 posted on 10/02/2021 5:24:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber
They are making an example out of him. How long until citizens get the same treatment from government rulers?

Conservative TV and Radio hosts should play him every day to shine the light on the communist scum that is our military leadership and much of the government.

2 posted on 10/02/2021 5:24:49 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

So he said Trump divided the country. Maybe he’s got his wires crossed.


3 posted on 10/02/2021 5:36:26 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: HighSierra5

I think you missed his context.....and should look for the exact quote.


4 posted on 10/02/2021 5:40:55 AM PDT by Guenevere (When the foundations are being destroyed what can the righteous do t)
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To: MtnClimber
The author of this piece is an idiot: while there's no question that Stu Scheller laid everything out in public, it was his life, his career that he was sacrificing - and it was not some sort of "armed rebellion". Putting him in the brig BEFORE the Article 32 Investigation (the investigation to establish if there is a sufficient evidence to bring charges before a court martial) is obscene. This is usually only done for violent crimes in which the accused may commit more crimes.

Rather than some sort of blanket "my chain of command is always right and must be followed" logic, the armed forces need firebrands and risk-takers to shake up the ossified leadership and to eliminate rigidity of thinking.

Sometimes we need tough articles in the military gazettes, sometimes we need men willing to risk their careers to speak out to the public "skylining" stupidity and failure ("Skylining" refers to holding offenders up above the skyline to make them targets).

The author of this piece is clearly one of the problems - he is a member of an establishment that sees dissent as injurious to "good order and discipline" as if this were still the Royal Navy. Dissent is the lifeblood of the revolutionary change all successful military organizations must undergo as war and warfare change.

Free Stuart and jail Milley!

5 posted on 10/02/2021 5:41:57 AM PDT by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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To: HighSierra5

Trump did divide thie country by clearly identifying the patriotic, loyal Constitution-loving Americans and distinguishing them from the hate-America, racist, abortion-murdering, traitorous Demonicrats.


6 posted on 10/02/2021 5:43:44 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: HighSierra5

Maybe he can be “forgiven” for that.
The truth is, Donald Trump is not an easy character to accept as is, for many conservatives.

I’ve always admired him, and have been able to accept or endure his rough spots, his tendency to randomly pick fights with other public figures. Not all conservatives can or will choose to do that. They keep waiting for Trump to change his actions.


7 posted on 10/02/2021 5:44:13 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: MtnClimber

No, but we no longer have justice in this country.


8 posted on 10/02/2021 5:45:33 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: MtnClimber

In a military setting, the Lieutenant Colonel’s proper course should have been to resign his commission, then speak out.

So in that sense, going to the brig or suffering court martial is unfortunately appropriate.


9 posted on 10/02/2021 5:47:30 AM PDT by Magnatron
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To: MtnClimber

Lieutenant Colonel Stuart Scheller speaks the truth, but in doing so, he violates Army regulations, thus he goes to the brig. Vindeman, violates regulations, revealing classified information in doing so and he becomes a hero. It all depends on whose ox is being gored.


10 posted on 10/02/2021 6:04:33 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal. )
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To: Carl Vehse

I forgot to add that to my post. Thanks.


11 posted on 10/02/2021 6:07:50 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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I support Lieutenant Colonel Scheller, but one can not say he didn't knowingly violate military protocols with his statements and choices of venue to air his dissent and calls for accountability.

Are they making an example of Lieutenant Colonel Scheller? Absolutely. But if you watch all of his videos, one would have to conclude he was fully cognizant that would happen, and arguably, what he wanted to happen given that he continued to poke the hornet's nest until it did happen.

In the latter days of the Vietnam war, David Hackworth made similar public remarks about the senior leadership and remained a very controversial figure through the rest of his life. Ironically, decades later in 1997, HR McMaster would publish his doctoral dissertation regarding the failed leadership of the Vietnam war and was highly lauded for having done so.

As a former Army officer, I found this analysis of Lieut. Col. Scheller's circumstances by Ward Carroll, to be pretty insightful, and spot on. Carroll is a retired O-5 and was an F-14 jock and USNA instructor.

12 posted on 10/02/2021 6:08:51 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Guenevere

I don’t have time to check out the full context but I get your point.


13 posted on 10/02/2021 6:09:08 AM PDT by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.)
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To: MtnClimber

Speaking out publicly while in the military is a no-no. However, like the Exec on a ship — senior officers have a responsibility (dual) to take an opposite position in order to get the more senior officers to think again.

Doing this he should expect to resign. To toss him in jail was traitorous — typical of Milley’s military.


14 posted on 10/02/2021 6:49:03 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, wokies)
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He violated the UCMJ and is being held accountable. Gen.Milley also violated the UCMJ and gets a free pass. That’s justice in the USA.


15 posted on 10/02/2021 6:49:14 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE )
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To: MtnClimber

If he had done it to Trump, what would have happened?


16 posted on 10/02/2021 6:51:02 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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To: MtnClimber

He also said that President Donald Trump “divided the country,”

BS, Trump was elected because we were a divided country.


17 posted on 10/02/2021 6:53:30 AM PDT by kenmcg (tHE WHOLE )
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To: Magnatron
In a military setting, the Lieutenant Colonel’s proper course should have been to resign his commission, then speak out.

So in that sense, going to the brig or suffering court martial is unfortunately appropriate.

I believe he attempted to resign his commission after the released video. However, our new woke Marine Corps, apparently, decided not to act on his resignation and decided to apply the UCMJ to him. They wish to curry favor with those who "donated" $85 billion in weapons and equipment to the Taliban, left Americans behind and are responsible for US military personnel being killed at the Kabul Airport and the drone strike on innocent Afghan adults and children.

Yes, they clearly want to make an example out of him.

18 posted on 10/02/2021 6:56:04 AM PDT by Perseverando (Antifa, BLM, RINOs, Islamonazis, Marxists, Commucrats, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder!)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I am firmly on Stuart Scheller's side. I was a Marine for 27 years, spending the first four years as an enlisted Marine, a large part of that time in combat in Vietnam. I remember the frustration and anguish we went through as our government fumbled through our war and the final frustrating and shameful end.

The reason I became an officer - I had the choice; to get out or to accept promotion to Staff Sergeant and become a career SNCO or to earn a commission. I chose to become an officer because we knew that Marine Officers are held to a higher standard of competence and integrity.

I had our integrity tested many times over my career. Many of my fellow officers were just fine with rampant drug use and ignored the racial fights in the evenings. I was not, and I took the heat for busting dopers and breaking up the fights. Many of my fellow officers considered being an officer of Marines just a job and barely noticed problems in equipment or tactics or evolutions in warfare - they just got by.

LtCol Stuart Scheller is the kind of officer who understands the uniqueness of being a Marine leader and he has accepted a very rough path for himnself for his country, for his Corps and for the young Marines that follow. He is the only one of all the hundreds of General Officers, colonels and other seniors to do this.

I admire him very much and strongly disagree with the naval aviator with the guitars behind him in the video. He doesn't have the memories and the nightmares and the losses a combat Marine carries with him. Stuart Scheller has sacrificed everything for his Marines.

19 posted on 10/02/2021 6:59:54 AM PDT by Chainmail (Frater magnus te spectat)
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Damn foreigner and his opinion. Calls Marine an Army soldier. They carefully stands on rules and priggery and finds a way to condemn Schaller when leftist officers run wild in abuse of Trump.

American “thinker” indeed. Not American, not a thinker.


20 posted on 10/02/2021 7:16:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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