Posted on 09/25/2021 4:55:17 AM PDT by conservative98
As Ford Authority reported back in August, FoMoCo recently gave 2021 Ford F-150 buyers the option to remove the auto start-stop feature from their pickups through the end of the year, and those that choose to do so will get a $50 credit and perhaps take delivery a little sooner, due to supply constraints. Now, sources familiar with the 2022 Ford Explorer launch are telling Ford Authority that auto stop-start will become an option on the 2022 Explorer as well.
The auto stop-start feature will be an option on Base, XLT, Timberline, and Limited trims for 2022. Shoppers eyeing Limited Hybrid, King Ranch, Platinum, Platinum Hybrid, and ST models will not get this choice, because the change applies only to models equipped with Ford’s 2.3L EcoBoost I-4. This change will be reflected in Explorer production beginning in late September.
As is the case with the 2021 F-150, those that choose to opt-out of auto stop-start will receive a $50 credit for their troubles.
(Excerpt) Read more at fordauthority.com ...
https://www.f150forum.com/f129/forscan-14th-gen-f150s-481816/
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/forscan-software-enable-disable-features-your-truck-348987/
I’m retired now, but I worked in Detroit, and commuted an hour each way. There’s no way I spent a third of that time idling at stop lights (other than maybe once or twice a year during snow storms).
....not to mention the toll stop/start imposes on your engine, alternator and battery....
I like my 2008 F250... It’s the windows XP side of computers. Main thing I like is I could shut off the seat warning tone.
I can't speak for Ford, but I can speak for Subaru. My friend is a Certified Master Technician who is currently working for Subaru. He tells me that the starters on the start/stop models are hefty and are designed to last as long as the regular models even though they may get used many many more times.
Ford, who knows, they probably grabbed some leftover Escort starters and slapped them in there, good to go.
That’s what I’m afraid of. Both ways can “work”, at least for a while.
Several studies on auto stop/start have shown that in heavy traffic driving for extended periods of time there is a slight improvement in mileage (<2% or so). Obviously this pertains to city driving situations. If one lives in the suburbs or small town America, the option is worthless.
My 2021 Chevy Colorado does not have this ‘feature’ - Yayyyy
Lol, Yep it was full accelerate, or full decelerate. There was no real “maintaining” a steady speed to it. One place I did enjoy Cruise though was in big rigs. They tended to work more smoothly and float better. And like you say it is nice to give your foot a rest once in awhile.
I always “adjust” the throttle springs on vehicles when I can, so that not as much is needed to push the throttle. This really makes a difference in how tired your foot gets. Just the weight of your foot is enough to maintain without needing to even push much if even at all once you find that sweet spot.
My 2021 RAM 1500 has Stop / Start.
It has the Hemi E Torque system with a 48 Volt Motor / Generator instead of an Alternator. An Accessory Belt goes from it directly to the Crank Pully.
It restarts the Engine instead of using the regular Starter and it is pretty much seamless. Don’t really notice it.
If the Air Conditioner is on its lowest setting (we live in the South) it never engages anyway and there is a switch to disable it on the Dash anyway.
My wife’s mercedes has this feature, she likes it, but it comes with a switch that can disable the feature, which I do.
“If these companies switched to air starters we wouldn’t have this problem”
They tried this on big rigs back in the 70’s. It was more of a pain than a gain. The tank would only hold two starts worth because it uses so much air. Constant air leaks would drain the system and leave you dead in the water. And you could not just get a jump, you have to call an expensive service truck that has an air compressor.
It just wasn’t practical at all and they ditched the concept.
I have a problem with my car shutting it’s self off while in traffic. If it doesn’t restart I am now a dangerous traffic hazard and unneeded road block. I want to be in a parking spot before my engine shuts off period. Just in case it doesn’t start again.
Time is not relevant, how long of a distance was it? Did that commute get longer each successive year? Furthermore, Detroit lost population as the automotive industry started taking a hit. So, perhaps Detroit was the exception. Go out to Ca. for a visit, and try moving about at rush hour on the interstates. The interstates are were the traffic is more of an issue anyway, not inner cities, as the traffic is controlled by the lights That is until an obstruction, like an accident or street repair, mucks the traffic patterns up in the city.
I had put a contract on a house in Mannasas Va., and people said oh you don't want to make that commute. It was about 26 miles to the Capitol Beltway. It was backed up on Route 66 from Manassas to the beltway, and traffic was crawling at less than 30 mph. It took an hour to get back to the beltway, and I didn't go all the way to Manassas either. They rejected my offer, and I backed out of the contract. They were shocked that I didn't counter, but it was the excuse I needed to back out anyway. Found a house in Springfield Va., and my commute into the Pentagon area (16 miles) took me 30-45 minutes on Interstate 95.
I live in Louisiana now, and the traffic is not nearly as bad, however, there was an accident after the I-10 Bonnet Carré Spillway Bridge. I was stuck on the I-10 Bonnet Carré Spillway Bridge (11 miles in length) for 3 hours.
But deactivating the autostart entails....pushing a button!!
The original poster called that a “pain in the ass.” My only thought is if pushing a button is a pain in the ass for somebody, that person must be leading a charmed life. I don’t know...maybe the Ford button is super hard to push or difficult to reach. In my Jeep, it’s right there one the center console right below the hazard lights and I haven’t worn out my index finger pushing it.
My wife’s Subaru does this.
What a STUPID idea! Unnecessary wear and tear on the starter, battery, engine, etc.
WHAT IF IT DOESN’T RESTART?
STUCK in traffic! STUCK in the frozen tundra. STUCK in the ghetto at night. STUCK on your way to the hospital. STUCK on your way to get BEER!
This is such an asinine idea that it must have come from the government.
I agree. I’m happy with my Subaru but hate the shut off chip. I shut it off as soon as I start the car.
Exactly. $60,000 for a car that doesn’t give the driver the option to turn something on and off, not just for the current ignition cycle. It’s a pain in the ass because the amount of gas it will save is so insignificant; it’s not worth it. It will cause more wear and tear on the engine and battery than it’s worth.
Will wear out the piston rings faster....
I remember doing that years ago. The car actually felt faster when I put lighter springs on the carbs!
Sometimes I forget to disable it & then the car shuts off at a red light. Maybe the government likes it, but it’s totally unnecessary and annoying, IMO.
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