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2022 Ford Explorer To Gain Optional Auto Start/Stop Removal
Ford Authority ^ | September 23, 2021 8:17 am | Brett Foote

Posted on 09/25/2021 4:55:17 AM PDT by conservative98

As Ford Authority reported back in August, FoMoCo recently gave 2021 Ford F-150 buyers the option to remove the auto start-stop feature from their pickups through the end of the year, and those that choose to do so will get a $50 credit and perhaps take delivery a little sooner, due to supply constraints. Now, sources familiar with the 2022 Ford Explorer launch are telling Ford Authority that auto stop-start will become an option on the 2022 Explorer as well.

The auto stop-start feature will be an option on Base, XLT, Timberline, and Limited trims for 2022. Shoppers eyeing Limited Hybrid, King Ranch, Platinum, Platinum Hybrid, and ST models will not get this choice, because the change applies only to models equipped with Ford’s 2.3L EcoBoost I-4. This change will be reflected in Explorer production beginning in late September.

As is the case with the 2021 F-150, those that choose to opt-out of auto stop-start will receive a $50 credit for their troubles.

(Excerpt) Read more at fordauthority.com ...


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KEYWORDS: automotive; autostartstop; explorer; f150; ford; globalwarming; joe6pack; joe6packtroll
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To: conservative98
You can 'hack' the computer code to disable A.S.S. and other annoyances with a reader and Forscan software. I hacked both of my Lincolns, even enabled NAV on one that did not have it from the factory.
There are threads about it on the F150 forums.

https://www.f150forum.com/f129/forscan-14th-gen-f150s-481816/

https://www.f150forum.com/f118/forscan-software-enable-disable-features-your-truck-348987/

61 posted on 09/25/2021 7:30:36 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Si vis pacem, para bellum. )
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To: Robert DeLong

I’m retired now, but I worked in Detroit, and commuted an hour each way. There’s no way I spent a third of that time idling at stop lights (other than maybe once or twice a year during snow storms).


62 posted on 09/25/2021 7:34:11 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Capitalism is what happens when you leave people alone.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

....not to mention the toll stop/start imposes on your engine, alternator and battery....


63 posted on 09/25/2021 7:34:25 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: rlmorel

I like my 2008 F250... It’s the windows XP side of computers. Main thing I like is I could shut off the seat warning tone.


64 posted on 09/25/2021 7:42:33 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
The question in my mind is if the engine is really built for it

I can't speak for Ford, but I can speak for Subaru. My friend is a Certified Master Technician who is currently working for Subaru. He tells me that the starters on the start/stop models are hefty and are designed to last as long as the regular models even though they may get used many many more times.

Ford, who knows, they probably grabbed some leftover Escort starters and slapped them in there, good to go.

65 posted on 09/25/2021 7:42:35 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Malsua

That’s what I’m afraid of. Both ways can “work”, at least for a while.


66 posted on 09/25/2021 7:53:47 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Several studies on auto stop/start have shown that in heavy traffic driving for extended periods of time there is a slight improvement in mileage (<2% or so). Obviously this pertains to city driving situations. If one lives in the suburbs or small town America, the option is worthless.

My 2021 Chevy Colorado does not have this ‘feature’ - Yayyyy


67 posted on 09/25/2021 7:53:47 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Slo-Joe and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Lol, Yep it was full accelerate, or full decelerate. There was no real “maintaining” a steady speed to it. One place I did enjoy Cruise though was in big rigs. They tended to work more smoothly and float better. And like you say it is nice to give your foot a rest once in awhile.

I always “adjust” the throttle springs on vehicles when I can, so that not as much is needed to push the throttle. This really makes a difference in how tired your foot gets. Just the weight of your foot is enough to maintain without needing to even push much if even at all once you find that sweet spot.


68 posted on 09/25/2021 7:56:25 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: conservative98

My 2021 RAM 1500 has Stop / Start.

It has the Hemi E Torque system with a 48 Volt Motor / Generator instead of an Alternator. An Accessory Belt goes from it directly to the Crank Pully.

It restarts the Engine instead of using the regular Starter and it is pretty much seamless. Don’t really notice it.

If the Air Conditioner is on its lowest setting (we live in the South) it never engages anyway and there is a switch to disable it on the Dash anyway.


69 posted on 09/25/2021 8:04:38 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Trump - Make America Great Again / Xiden - Make America Grovel Again...)
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To: BobL

My wife’s mercedes has this feature, she likes it, but it comes with a switch that can disable the feature, which I do.


70 posted on 09/25/2021 8:05:23 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: Celerity

“If these companies switched to air starters we wouldn’t have this problem”

They tried this on big rigs back in the 70’s. It was more of a pain than a gain. The tank would only hold two starts worth because it uses so much air. Constant air leaks would drain the system and leave you dead in the water. And you could not just get a jump, you have to call an expensive service truck that has an air compressor.

It just wasn’t practical at all and they ditched the concept.


71 posted on 09/25/2021 8:06:08 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: conservative98

I have a problem with my car shutting it’s self off while in traffic. If it doesn’t restart I am now a dangerous traffic hazard and unneeded road block. I want to be in a parking spot before my engine shuts off period. Just in case it doesn’t start again.


72 posted on 09/25/2021 8:21:49 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: norwaypinesavage
commuted an hour each way

Time is not relevant, how long of a distance was it? Did that commute get longer each successive year? Furthermore, Detroit lost population as the automotive industry started taking a hit. So, perhaps Detroit was the exception. Go out to Ca. for a visit, and try moving about at rush hour on the interstates. The interstates are were the traffic is more of an issue anyway, not inner cities, as the traffic is controlled by the lights That is until an obstruction, like an accident or street repair, mucks the traffic patterns up in the city.

I had put a contract on a house in Mannasas Va., and people said oh you don't want to make that commute. It was about 26 miles to the Capitol Beltway. It was backed up on Route 66 from Manassas to the beltway, and traffic was crawling at less than 30 mph. It took an hour to get back to the beltway, and I didn't go all the way to Manassas either. They rejected my offer, and I backed out of the contract. They were shocked that I didn't counter, but it was the excuse I needed to back out anyway. Found a house in Springfield Va., and my commute into the Pentagon area (16 miles) took me 30-45 minutes on Interstate 95.

I live in Louisiana now, and the traffic is not nearly as bad, however, there was an accident after the I-10 Bonnet Carré Spillway Bridge. I was stuck on the I-10 Bonnet Carré Spillway Bridge (11 miles in length) for 3 hours.

73 posted on 09/25/2021 8:45:33 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: suijuris

But deactivating the autostart entails....pushing a button!!

The original poster called that a “pain in the ass.” My only thought is if pushing a button is a pain in the ass for somebody, that person must be leading a charmed life. I don’t know...maybe the Ford button is super hard to push or difficult to reach. In my Jeep, it’s right there one the center console right below the hazard lights and I haven’t worn out my index finger pushing it.


74 posted on 09/25/2021 10:17:36 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: conservative98

My wife’s Subaru does this.

What a STUPID idea! Unnecessary wear and tear on the starter, battery, engine, etc.

WHAT IF IT DOESN’T RESTART?

STUCK in traffic! STUCK in the frozen tundra. STUCK in the ghetto at night. STUCK on your way to the hospital. STUCK on your way to get BEER!

This is such an asinine idea that it must have come from the government.


75 posted on 09/25/2021 10:42:20 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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To: faucetman

I agree. I’m happy with my Subaru but hate the shut off chip. I shut it off as soon as I start the car.


76 posted on 09/25/2021 11:05:41 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta ( )
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To: faucetman

Exactly. $60,000 for a car that doesn’t give the driver the option to turn something on and off, not just for the current ignition cycle. It’s a pain in the ass because the amount of gas it will save is so insignificant; it’s not worth it. It will cause more wear and tear on the engine and battery than it’s worth.


77 posted on 09/25/2021 11:07:28 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

Will wear out the piston rings faster....


78 posted on 09/25/2021 11:08:54 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Openurmind
I always “adjust” the throttle springs on vehicles when I can, so that not as much is needed to push the throttle.

I remember doing that years ago. The car actually felt faster when I put lighter springs on the carbs!

79 posted on 09/25/2021 11:14:23 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fake news, fake election, fake president, real deaths.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Sometimes I forget to disable it & then the car shuts off at a red light. Maybe the government likes it, but it’s totally unnecessary and annoying, IMO.


80 posted on 09/25/2021 11:15:36 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta ( )
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