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Who’s Really Being Hospitalized?
The Epoch Times ^ | August 30, 2021 Updated: August 30, 2021 | Jennifer Margulis

Posted on 08/31/2021 12:40:26 PM PDT by dynoman

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To: Religion and Politics; silverleaf
Is it not interesting that the percentage of fully vaxxed hospitalized so closely matches the percent of the population that is vaxxed?

Yes! Also, below age 80 the percentage of "cases" with vaccinations is HIGHER than the percentage vaccinated in the total population. This suggests that there may be zero or a slight NEGATIVE advantage to the vaccine in preventing cases for that age group. Wow.

All Freepers should read "How to lie with Statistics" by Darell Huff, I first read it as a teenager, then again in grad school. Still in print, I think.

41 posted on 08/31/2021 1:51:25 PM PDT by c-five
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To: palmer

https://www.columbiatribune.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/06/21/covid-19-delta-variant-missouri-tracking-wastewater-system-mu-analysis-marc-johnson/7770254002/

Surely you are not claiming there are no spiked 1 and 2 proteins in the Delta version?


42 posted on 08/31/2021 1:51:51 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: c-five; silverleaf
I went to the web site sourced and found hospitalizations. The August data really sees a rise in the fully vaccinated individuals, and even a number of 3 timers have been hospitalized.

Israel is our petri dish on this stuff.

43 posted on 08/31/2021 1:58:53 PM PDT by Religion and Politics
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To: Just mythoughts

The boosters will be mandated as soon as Congress ups the estate tax law.


44 posted on 08/31/2021 2:02:30 PM PDT by cnsmom
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To: rb22982
This is a screenshot of the downloaded data. I removed columns for 1st dose and early 2nd dose positives. It's got more information from August.



https://data.gov.il/dataset/covid-19/resource/9b623a64-f7df-4d0c-9f57-09bd99a88880
45 posted on 08/31/2021 2:05:05 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: c-five

See post 45.


46 posted on 08/31/2021 2:06:11 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Mr Rogers

What is the beginning time for their data set? Most of the unvaccinated vs vaccinated information here in the US starts in 2020 before vaccinations were even started. With the numbers those sources quote I’d bet that’s what they did. It’s a very deceptive way to present the data.

Look at post 45 for a way more fair way of doing it.


47 posted on 08/31/2021 2:15:07 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Buttons12; TankerKC

I always skim over spelling mistakes, check post 45 if the spelling bothers you.


48 posted on 08/31/2021 2:23:29 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Mr Rogers
"Some hard numbers, this time from Riverside County in CA:"

In a different COVID thread I determined that the death rate in July in Oregon from COVID among the unvaxxed was ten times the death rate among the vaxxed. The article made it seem like the death rate among the vaxxed was increasing (due to a prior reporting error) and that those who had been vaxxed were duped.

Despite any over-promotion from the suppliers of the vax, Oregon should be quite pleased if the death rate among the vaxxed is one tenth of what it would be without the vaccine. (Or whatever one wants to call it.)

49 posted on 08/31/2021 3:02:38 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: dynoman

I usually ignore them but if you’re going to some trouble to make an image...


50 posted on 08/31/2021 3:31:40 PM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: dynoman

The Riverside data was from Feb-July, 2021. The SC data was from July 16-August 15 of 2021. So the SC data was totally apples to apples and included the delta variant. And importantly: The Riverside data was for Feb-July and ONLY 23 vaccinated people died during those 6 months. Out of nearly 2200 deaths!


51 posted on 08/31/2021 3:49:58 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: kiryandil

Hopefully a few others, as well.


52 posted on 08/31/2021 4:55:32 PM PDT by moonhawk (Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Communist Party? Asking for a friend.)
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To: Mr Rogers

Well Israel is a clue to what’s coming to the US. Data out of Israel and the UK is why the booster is being recommended here at five months after a previous vaccine.


53 posted on 08/31/2021 4:58:53 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

I suspect Biden and Fauci LOVE pushing boosters. I took the vaccine but have no intention of getting a booster. At this point, I’m willing to just GET the WhuHu Flu and find out what happens!


54 posted on 08/31/2021 5:32:52 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Pollard

Gotta work on banning the other vax nazi trolls too.


55 posted on 08/31/2021 6:08:09 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

It’s a difficult thing moderating a busy forum with a goal of keeping lively debate going while trying to keep things from becoming an echo chamber and at the same time, trying to keep standards.

I wish FR was a bit more activist based like it evidently was back in the day. There’s an Activism Topic but all it has is FReeper Canteens which as far as I can tell are threads about reliving the good old days.

It’s mostly just a place to bicker.


56 posted on 08/31/2021 6:34:40 PM PDT by Pollard (#*&% Communism)
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To: piusv

Someone said he was a shill for the pharma industry and he replied that they were a shill for the CCP. JR then stepped in and zotted him on the spot.

Maybe there was background that explained it, but on its face it looked like a questionable ZOT to me.

I found him informative as he battled the vaccine skeptics day in and day out. My impression is they couldn’t out argue him so they got him canceled instead.


57 posted on 08/31/2021 6:39:29 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Viking kitties got him when he showed a little more of his true nature.


58 posted on 08/31/2021 6:53:00 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: Just mythoughts
So you are saying that what they detected in early May in MO was not Delta virus but spike proteins "shed" from the vaccinated?

You don't believe Delta could make it from India where it was detected in Feb, to MO where it was detected in May? And you are saying that spike proteins "shed" from the vaccinated have the same sequencing as Delta?

59 posted on 09/01/2021 4:37:06 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
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To: Pollard

Yes it’s the ultimate bickering forum. Great description!


60 posted on 09/01/2021 6:29:18 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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