Posted on 08/28/2021 5:55:10 AM PDT by MtnClimber
Until recently, the practice of medicine was based more on science, less on science fiction.
Until recently, the practice of medicine was based more on science, less on science fiction. Even when science fiction acted as foreshadowing, hard evidence was required to turn fiction into non-fiction.
We are told to practice evidence-based medicine. However, evidence today has taken a back seat to wishful thinking — or is it an agenda? A refresher on recent issues is required to see how science fiction has increasingly replaced science and where it leads.
This science fiction story begins with the 2019 "virus" and 2020 "vaccine." A selection of the story's chapters include a virus of which the CDC claimed not to possess a reference sample. A vaccine that did not fit the definition of a vaccine. Approval of a vaccine for which the studies had not reached clinically important endpoints. The lack of time to understand the vaccine's intermediate and long-term effects. The lack of legal liability placed on the manufacturers. The cheap, effective treatments available but ignored.
Are we practicing evidenced-based medicine when mandating what is not a vaccine, as the CDC defines? If this were a vaccine, it would directly stimulate the immune system. It would protect the injected from the disease. It would not claim to protect others from the disease. It would not be in use while mutations arise. What we have does what it should not do and does not do what it should.
The vaccine's clinical endpoint was to prevent mild disease, which could simply be an increase in coughing. Is that clinically relevant? What about having a positive PCR test? That test will be withdrawn at year's end. It cannot differentiate a coronavirus from influenza or other viruses...
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Makes me chuckle, the vax pimps are all over this like white on rice.
Oh well, all their smearing won’t change a thing anyway.
I am worried that people trumpet a website as a definitive source to spread a false rumor.
It is a liberal talking point to use the word big in front of an industry.
Big pharma
Big tobacco
Big whatever they want to attack. Becomes a pejorative
I want one person who does not support vaccines to honestly answer when we became so unamerican. The American spirit used to be we can do anything and get it done.
Now we say unless it takes something a decade forget it. We won’t believe it. We’re we to take that approach last century we would either be speaking Japanese or Russian.
Why don’t you believe in the ingenuity and grit of the American way?
Do you work for Pfizer? I looked at your multiple posts and you have been touting the MRNA line.
Speaking of Pfizer the former VP and head of research is anti the use of this MRNA shot, it is not a vaccine. He is not an antivaxer and is very much in favor of vaccines. MRNA tech does not create a vaccine. He knows a hell of a lot more about this MRNA shot than I or anyone posting on this board.
I am not an antivaxer. Due to my age (73) I took the Pfizer shot. At the time the risk benefit ratio seemed worth the risk. I was wrong on that analysis. I myself suffered no ill effects as of yet. The stats are slowly coming in on mild to fatal reactions to the shot. I wish I had of waited for the Johnson and Johnson vaccine. It is a true vaccine and offers much more protection to the Delta variety and those to come after delta. It also has risk factors but the risk benefit ratio is acceptable.
It should be noted that Japan is now using and recommending the use of ivermectin. You ranted against its use and you are wrong. Should one use the horse paste? Hell no. Should one use the injectable 1% version but take it by mouth not injected? If you know what you are doing and understand how to dose it, it is very safe.
Ivermectin has a wide therapeutic index and previous studies have shown doses up to 2000 mcg/kg (ie, 10 times the US Food and Drug Administration approved dose) are well tolerated and safe; the highest dose used for onchocerciasis is a single dose of 800 mcg/kg.
For covid we are using 200 mcg/kg dosing. If you do not know what a microgram is you will probably screw up your dosing, do not do it.
cpdiii (Clinical Pharmacist, retired)
You are babbling incoherently.
The death toll from these vaccines is gonna get so big it will be impossible to hide it—and then we won’t be hearing a word of apology from you.
Again. Can’t answer a question
Thank God for president trump for getting this done. Save millions of lives. We have been hearing about the bodies in the street from your side since vaccines started. Oh by the way we are a year and a half into it from the first clinical trial.
Last month it was declared we would know with delta in two weeks if vaccination related death would ensue. Well a month later. Nothing. But I see your absolutely unverifiable claim that the death toll will be so high it can’t be hidden.
Why are you so morbidly hoping for this? It hasn’t happened. It will not happen. It would have long happened by now but I suppose it keeps your narrative going.
“Big Pharma is collecting billions in profits …”
Yep. And can we safely assume that there are plenty of KICK-BACKS being deposited into the pockets of our politicians?
- Abso-FREAKING-lutely!!!
This whole thing is about LOTS of money and our government putting us absolutely in our place once and for all.
Covid 8 is the major strain in Britain now. Of new deaths about 75% have been vaccinated (mRNA is not a vaccine) and 25% have not. Thus the mRNA shot makes you more vulnerable to Covid Delta due to Antibody Dependent Enhancement.
Months ago I took the Pfizer shot. Thus today I am more vulnerable to Covid Delta than the vaccinated. I should have waited for the Johnson and Johnson vaccine which is a true vaccine. It is also effective against Delta.
cpdiii wrote: “Do you work for Pfizer? I looked at your multiple posts and you have been touting the MRNA line.”
That’s one of the oldest internet strategies to cast doubt on someone’s credibility by accusing them of a having a financial interest. Not so. I’ve never worked for a biological or pharmaceutical corporation.
I’m not touting the mRNA line. I am posting facts that contradict the false and misleading information posted by the anti-vaxxer cult.
cpdiii wrote: “Speaking of Pfizer the former VP and head of research is anti the use of this MRNA shot, it is not a vaccine. He is not an antivaxer and is very much in favor of vaccines. MRNA tech does not create a vaccine. He knows a hell of a lot more about this MRNA shot than I or anyone posting on this board.”
This statement contains several misstatements.
Yeardon was not the former VP and head of research for Pfizer. Yeardon was a vice president and chief scientific officer for Pfizer’s United Kingdom-based allergy and respiratory unit until that unit shut down in 2011.
And just to be clear, the division had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious diseases. It was focused on developing drugs to treat asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
Yeardon is a conspiracy kook. For example: he has claimed the vaccines are a conspiracy to depopulate the world.
The mRNA vaccines are vaccines. The anti-vaxxers promulgate the false statement that they are not in a blatant attempt to cast doubt on the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines by refusing to acknowledge they fit the definition of a vaccine. Vaccine, “a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease.
cpdiii wrote: “It should be noted that Japan is now using and recommending the use of ivermectin. It should be noted that Japan is now using and recommending the use of ivermectin. You ranted against its use and you are wrong.”
It should also be noted that the countries that have recommended the use of ivermectin have withdrawn their recommendation because of a lack of credible evidence that ivermectin is effective in treating COVID.
For example:
There is very little to support the effectiveness of ivermectin (or HCQ) for that matter.
Here’s a couple of articles that directly address the shortcomings of this “Sad Lesson”:
No data available to suggest a link between India’s reduction of COVID-19 cases and the use of ivermectin
“Given the short span of time between the release of the guideline and the beginning of the decline in daily cases, specifically ten days, as well as the significant size of India’s territory and population, it seems highly unlikely that this guideline would have led to a nationwide uptake of ivermectin by a significant enough number of patients to already impact the evolution of the daily number of new cases.”
And, since the anti-vaxxers like Youtube videos:
Indian govt ditches most popular drugs in new COVID-19 treatment plan | Ivermectin | Doxycycline
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3efhzEeFVjg
Or in text format:
The Union Health Ministry and Family Welfare’s directorate general of health services (DGHS) has issued revised guidelines to stop the use of Ivermectin and Doxycycline in Covid-19 treatment. The new guidelines have dropped all medicines, except antipyretic and antitussive, for asymptomatic and mild cases.
It’s really amusing that the anti-vaxxers rant about the vaccines not be fully approved but are all in favor of drugs not approved to treat COVID.
It occurred to me the other day that discussions such as we have on Free Republic are outright banned on Facebook and Twitter, the “mother’s milk” of social discourse, it seems, for most Americans. Combine this with what the media is pumping out and the Chinese with TikTok and people have to be horribly confused.
It appears that, so far, The Powers That Be have not been able to shut down FR. So, I think it looks like the course being followed is to flood it with disinformation.
This takes, I think, two forms. There are the happy voices, supporting the messages of TPTB, just like the media. For the vax, this means repeating endlessly its wonderful “effectiveness”, even though it hasn’t stopped this virus anywhere it is being used, and those “vaccinated” still get infected and spread the disease.
The other voice flooding FR with disinformation are the crazies, supporting TPTB by throwing up straw men and preventing meaningful discussion. For the vax, this means things like it “magnetizing” you. For other COVID remedies it means ridiculing their use, even as proper medical usage is blocked by blatant politics.
The end result can be almost as effective as what Facebook, Twitter and the rest of them are doing.
I miss the Viking Kittens.
We must hide any evidence and research that cheap, common, and safe drugs are effective. The government must never admit they made a mistake and let the people decide for themselves. Gotta trust the government funded scientists and vaccinate the entire population so Fauci and his merry band of crooks can pound their chests saying they saved the world.
gas_dr wrote: “Whoever wrote this is an idiot. And if he is indeed a physician he should lose his license. What is disturbing to me is the number of docs and nurses jumping on the 15 minute of fame band wagon instead of objectively practicing medicine. This includes the tenpenny tribe dirty dozen who wha have collected over $4 M profits for their websites. Unbelievable.”
What I find unbelievable are those who will jump on any derogatory comment made by any one that is critical of the vaccines without the slightest effort (google is your friend) to see if the comment can be substantiated. If it supports their anti-vaxxer narrative, then it must be true and breathlessly repeated.
It is also unbelievable that those who claim that anyone supporting the vaccines must have a financial incentive yet they ignore the profits from “the tenpenny tribe dirty dozen who have collected over $4 M profits for their websites”
Thank you, but I meant what they portended.
Tokyo’s Medical Assoc. Chairman holds live press conference recommending #ivermectin to all doctors, for all Covid patients. Japan’s government is one of the most conservative and cautious in the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkWOpFk1GGk
Global adoption of ivermectin treatment for Covid https://ivmstatus.com/
Existing affordable drugs could rapidly reduce Covid-19 cases and deaths in India
May 11, 2021, 12:15 PM IST Vikas P. Sukhatme and Vidula V. Sukhatme in Voices, India, TOI
(Vikas P. Sukhatme MD, ScD, is the Robert W. Woodruff Professor of Medicine, Dean of Emory University School of Medicine, and Chief Academic Officer of Emory Healthcare)
The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitro
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011
Attenuation of clinical and immunological outcomes during SARS-CoV-2 infection by ivermectin
EMBO Mol Med (2021)13:e14122https://doi.org/10.15252/emmm.202114122
Elucidation of the inhibitory activity of ivermectin with host nuclear importin α and several SARS-CoV-2 targets
https://doi.org/10.1080/07391102.2021.1911857
Ivermectin for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 63 studies
https://ivmmeta.com
The broad spectrum host-directed agent ivermectin as an antiviral for SARS-CoV-2 ?
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.bbrc.2020.10.042
COVID Deaths Plunge After Mexico City Introduces Ivermectin
https://principia-scientific.com/covid-deaths-plunge-after-mexico-city-introduces-ivermectin/
If they can’t kill you with the virus, they’ll do so with the vax.
Mother is back in the hospital with her second heart attack in a week and ALL the other complications from the vax. Her neurologist and home care nurse agree this follows the vax symptoms.
“but I meant what they portended.”
I know. But every time I see the phrase, “Viking Kittens”, I LOL and think of this video.
“ It is a liberal talking point to use the word big in front of an industry.
Big pharma
Big tobacco
Big whatever they want to attack. Becomes a pejorative”
Absolutely, Don’t forget Big Oil. I think Big Pharma is to the current era what Big Oil was 30 years ago.
I supported the oil companies then, and I support pharmaceutical research now. It takes a ton of money to bring new drugs to market.
How about hospitals who flat out refused to treat?
At all.
Every respiratory illness was assumed to be the WuFlu and you were sent home to get worse.
Because apparently early treatment which was the thing for the past fifty years was magically no longer a issue.
Just sit back and wait for it to fester.
Then 8 months later after multiple test ONLY for WuFlu because nothing else existed in the world, oh looks like you actually had lung cancer. Well, too late to do anything about it now. But lets test you for the WuFlu again. We might get lucky this time!
“I am more vulnerable to Covid Delta than the vaccinated”
Should read as “unvaccinted”.
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