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Appeals court orders Arizona Senate audit records released
Associated Press ^ | Aug. 19, 2021 | BOB CHRISTIE

Posted on 08/21/2021 2:09:45 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge

PHOENIX (AP) — An appeals court on Thursday rejected an effort by the Arizona Senate to keep secret records of its ongoing review of the 2020 election in Maricopa County that are in the possession of the contractors conducting the recount.

The Arizona Court of Appeals ruled that the documents sought by the watchdog group American Oversight detailing how the recount and audit are being conducted are public and must be turned over.

Republicans who control the Senate argued that because the records are maintained by its contractors, they were not subject to public records law and that legislative immunity applies. But the court said that was not the case.

The court said the main contractor, Florida company Cyber Ninjas, was subject to the records law because it was performing a core government function that the Senate farmed out.

"Allowing the legislature to disregard the clear mandate of the (public records law) would undermine the integrity of the legislative process and discourage transparency, which contradicts the purpose of both the immunity doctrine and the (law)," acting presiding Judge Maria Elena Cruz wrote for the three-judge panel.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: audit; az; election; fraud
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To: Grandpa Drudge
The perpetrators of the yet to be exposed “fraud” have yet to be identified, (unless you really know who it was).
The specific point is the Arizona Senate is trying to avoid exactly that

Nope.
Read post # 17. Again the Arizona Senate had nothing to do with the conduction of the elections. They are the ones working hard to expose the evidence of fraud.

21 posted on 08/21/2021 2:58:33 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: be-baw
I don't know the actual facts yet, but I understand the preliminary report was to be presented to the Arizona Senate for review yesterday (and I assume it was).

After review by the Senate it should be released publicly. I have no information exactly when that should occur.

I haven't seen any leaks yet...

22 posted on 08/21/2021 3:00:55 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: Grandpa Drudge
This "audit" is going on three monthes!


23 posted on 08/21/2021 3:03:35 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Grandpa Drudge

Thank you sir.


24 posted on 08/21/2021 3:04:11 PM PDT by be-baw
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To: Grandpa Drudge
"The Arizona Court of Appeals ruled that the documents sought by the watchdog group American Oversight detailing how the recount and audit are being conducted are public and must be turned over."

G-Drudge: The issue is NOT the RESULTs of the audit, but how it is conducted. The Left wants go get its lawyers on it and determine if they can litigate it away, smear it in the press, and determine how to protect them selves so they can conduct future fraud undetected!!

This is the Left and any pretend Pube-ick-cans who utilize fraud to get elected filing for access!

25 posted on 08/21/2021 3:05:55 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )
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To: the_Watchman
The Senate should see the results before they are made public.

The ruling doesn’t say anything about the results of the audit.

26 posted on 08/21/2021 3:12:39 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: SmokingJoe
Sorry, Joe, but I suggest that YOU need to re-read this thread more carefully. The Audit Committee is only a subset of the Arizona legislature, and has been vigorously opposed by the Arizona Senate from the beginning.

So far, it looks like the Audit Committee has a good chance of winning this struggle.

27 posted on 08/21/2021 3:15:15 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: monkeyshine

The AZ Senate committee has funded a total of $150k. The rest of the money has come from private donors.

Much of what’s being requested is work product or “trade secrets” of Cyber Ninjas.

Also it’s an ongoing investigation.


28 posted on 08/21/2021 3:18:15 PM PDT by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: I have an alibi.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
It does appear the routers are shared by all these County departments. I would presume that Cyber Ninjas found zero Internet activity on the election machines just like the previous two audits in Maricopa County, otherwise they wouldn't be asking for what is realistically a hail mary attempt.
29 posted on 08/21/2021 3:18:51 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Grandpa Drudge

But… Dominion doesn’t have to turn over its software or machines for inspection BECAUSE it’s a private contractor? (As other courts have found)

BS!!!


30 posted on 08/21/2021 3:20:28 PM PDT by Skywise
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To: Rocco DiPippo
So based on this evidence, this is nothing more than leftist/Democrat operatives trying to get a head start on dismissed the results of the audit by attacking the methods and credibility of the auditors.

Some have dismissing the results of the previous audits, Pro V&V audit report and SLI Audit Report, for some reason.

31 posted on 08/21/2021 3:27:23 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Grandpa Drudge
I don't see any mention of “audit committee” in the OP. You brought it up.

The OP talks about Cyber Ninjas who were employed by the GOP controlled Arizona Senate to investigate and report on the massive ballot fraud that the Dems carried out.
The Dems are trying to sabotage the upcoming report by using Dem control “judges” to sabotage Cyber Ninjas.
Maybe its you that needs to read the OP instead of pushing left wing Dem agendas.

32 posted on 08/21/2021 3:28:21 PM PDT by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: Do_Tar

As for it being an ongoing investigation, fair enough. The courts granted them access and they have a process so let them finish. Then full transparency.

It is an election audit. The report should be fully detailed and made public along with the raw data just like any peer reviewed publication. What’s the point of the audit by private donors just to keep the results to themselves? They are examining public records and afaik have had basically exclusive access to them.

FWIW the routers and other devices should also be turned over for inspection.


33 posted on 08/21/2021 3:30:03 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

That would be the election machines that had files deleted?

The reason stated for the routers is to see if there was any internet activity.

The previous “audits” were recounts, not forensic audits.


34 posted on 08/21/2021 3:37:00 PM PDT by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: I have an alibi.)
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To: Starboard
Our election system is never going to be cleaned up. Its a permanent mess.

Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.

(new tagline)

35 posted on 08/21/2021 3:42:29 PM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Do_Tar
The previous “audits” were recounts, not forensic audits.

Forensic to me implies a thorough examination of the election machines.

"SLI Compliance is submitting this report as a summary of forensic auditing efforts, solicited 
by Maricopa County Elections Department. The forensic audit conducted consisted of an 
analysis  and  review  of  the  voting  system  equipment  used  in  the  November  3rd,  2020 
presidential  election  and  records  from  that  election,  to  extract  facts  about  the  use  of  the 
Dominion Voting Systems Democracy Suite 5.5B voting system.  "
And PRO V&V..
The  Post-Election  Field  Audit  evaluated  the  EMS  and  ICC  workstations  and  servers  by  comparing  the 
SHA-256 hash value to the known SHA-256 hash values.  In addition, a malware detection tool  was run 
on each workstation/server to establish whether any malware/virus or malicious software was running on 
the workstations/servers.  Pro V&V utilized the tool to extract the firmware from a sample of  thirty-five 
ICP2  units.    These  extractions  were  then  placed  on  the  Pro  V&V  laptop  to  generate  the  SHA-256  hash 
value  for  the  firmware.    These  hash  values  were  compared  to  known  hash  values  for  the  Election 
Assistance Commission Federal Test Campaign.  In addition to these evaluations, Pro V&V conducted a 
network analysis to ensure the network is a “Closed Network” incapable  of  reaching  the  internet    

36 posted on 08/21/2021 3:52:45 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
Pete, I'm not sure I understand your points, but I'll respond with my understanding of the issue at hand:

1: The Arizona Senate asked the court to keep secret records of its ongoing review of the 2020 election in Maricopa County that are in the possession of the contractors conducting the recount.

2: The Arizona Court of Appeals ruled that the documents sought by the watchdog group American Oversight detailing how the recount and audit are being conducted are public and must be turned over.

3: Republicans who control the Senate argued that because the records are maintained by its contractors, they were not subject to public records law and that legislative immunity applies. But the court said that was not the case.

4: The court said the main contractor, Florida company Cyber Ninjas, was subject to the records law because it was performing a core government function that the Senate farmed out.

5: "Allowing the legislature to disregard the clear mandate of the (public records law) would undermine the integrity of the legislative process and discourage transparency, which contradicts the purpose of both the immunity doctrine and the (law)," acting presiding Judge Maria Elena Cruz wrote for the three-judge panel.

My opinion

Cyber Ninjas appears to have done a careful, thorough, and very well documented audit, with full expectations of ultimate public exposure, and are ready to release it all, without apology or excuses.

The left leaning Arizona Senate has opposed this effort from the beginning, and are again frustrated by this court of appeals ruling against them.

I have no knowledge or opinion of the watchdog group American Oversight, and at this point have no concern about their motives or intent. Seems to me that they are on the side of full disclosure of the audit results, with which I heartily agree.

37 posted on 08/21/2021 3:55:36 PM PDT by Grandpa Drudge (Just an old man, desperate to preserve our great country for my great grandchildren.)
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To: George from New England; Grandpa Drudge

Yes. I believe you have it.

If Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, others can issue subpoenas as soon as possible, this can notice any would-be evidence destroyers that the election materials are under protective order and any attempt to destroy such materials is a felony.

The Federal statute protecting election materials for 22 months should deter destruction but a legislative subpoena should be stronger and more specific.


38 posted on 08/21/2021 4:01:55 PM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Grandpa Drudge

Where are the corrupt courts in regard to Maricopa County ignoring the Senate?


39 posted on 08/21/2021 4:04:15 PM PDT by Revel
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To: monkeyshine

Strangely enough I agree. I think.

After release of the findings the raw data should be made available, but not necessarily Cyber Ninjas methods or internal communications.

As it turns out this decision actually only pertains to Senate emails and other communications. I think all of that, with the exception of valid security concerns, should always be available in near real time.

Amazingly the AP has written an article that is misleading!

Cyber Ninjas is dealt with in a separate case that I think is still under review.


40 posted on 08/21/2021 4:04:23 PM PDT by Do_Tar (I hope this isn't too incoherent. I know what I mean.)
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