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THE GREAT REBELLION: Further Reports of the Battle of Wilson’s Creek; Apprehensions of a Negro Insurrection in Tennessee (8/16/1861)
New York Times archives – Times Machine ^ | 8/16/1861

Posted on 08/16/2021 5:34:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

WASHINGTON, Thursday, Aug. 15.

It will be generally recollected that shortly after the election in 1856, the Tennessee papers gave accounts of a threatened insurrection among the slaves of a portion of the State, and that the insurrection was induced by the supposition, prevalent among the blacks, that FREMONT was coming up the river, backed by a large Army, for the purpose of liberating all the slaves. The exact details of the extent of this insurrectionary movement were never fully published; but it was known that many slaves were summarily tried and found guilty, some being executed and others sent further South. From well-authenticated sources, it is ascertained that the superstition of 1856 has been revived; that the presence of FREMONT at the head of the Western forces is already known to the negroes, and that his reappearance is hailed as a sure precursor of their liberation. This feeling has spread rapidly within the last month, and it is attracting great attention and exciting much alarm among the whites of those districts where there is a large proportion of slaves. My informant assures me that once the name of FREMONT is connected with any victory over the rebels, or that he is known to be in the State of Tennessee or Mississippi, the negroes will at once rise in rebellion. It is said that the fear of this danger, at their own thresholds induced the rebels to take the offensive in Missouri, and to keep the battle-field as far as possible from the eager and watching negroes.

The promptness with which the capitalists of the North have responded to the call of the Government for means, has infused new life into the Departments, and is the source of a general good feeling in the city.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: civilwar
Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1861-1865: Seminar and Discussion Forum
The American Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

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1 posted on 08/16/2021 5:34:13 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 08/16/2021 5:34:53 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: chajin; henkster; CougarGA7; BroJoeK; central_va; Larry Lucido; wagglebee; Colonel_Flagg; Amagi; ...

The Great Rebellion: Further Reports of the Battle of Wilson’s Creek – 2-3
A Day of Fasting and Prayer: Proclamation of President Lincoln – 3-4
Beauregard’s Promotion– 4
Mr. Russell’s Letters: Condition of Things in the Southern States – 4-7
Editorial: England and France – 7
The Battle of Bull Run – 7
Mr. Russell on the South – 7
Questionable – 7


3 posted on 08/16/2021 5:35:57 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Nine Presidents Who Screwed Up America, by Brion McClanahan


Yes, St. Abraham is one of the nefarious nine.


4 posted on 08/16/2021 5:47:51 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: BrexitBen
"Yes, St. Abraham is one of the nefarious nine."

More rubbish from America-hating Southern Democrats.

5 posted on 08/16/2021 6:37:40 AM PDT by BroJoeK (looking for a new tag line...)
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To: BroJoeK

Of course it is.

Empire building is the nation’s great obligation. Just ask any RINO.


6 posted on 08/16/2021 6:43:43 AM PDT by BrexitBen
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To: BrexitBen

Empire building is the nation’s great obligation. Just ask any RINO.

Not just the RINOs, I'm afraid. Many Freepers who seemed okay with Trump talking about ending the war in Afghanistan have now changed their tune now that Biden is actually doing it. My views have not changed with the regime: America has no business spending blood and treasure abroad when her own people and economy are suffering. When your unconstitutionally declared police action is older than some of the soldiers fighting it, you're doing something wrong.

7 posted on 08/16/2021 6:56:19 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; cp124; Chewbarkah
"The Great Rebellion: Further Reports of the Battle of Wilson’s Creek – 2-3"

The Times is still hoping to make it sound like a Union victory, and, just as at Bull Run, up to a certain point it was.
But then three things happened which turned it to a Confederate victory:

  1. Union forces under Gen. Lyon lost contact with those under Col. Sigel and could not support each other.
  2. Co. Sigel failed to post sentries and so was surprised by Confederates attacking his flank.
  3. Gen. Lyon was killed and without his leadership Union forces retreated.
So we'll see how long it takes the Times to tell us the hard truth of this matter.
8 posted on 08/16/2021 6:59:32 AM PDT by BroJoeK (looking for a new tag line...)
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To: BrexitBen
"Empire building is the nation’s great obligation.
Just ask any RINO."

Sure, just like destroying the United States is every Democrat's obligation.
Just ask any of them.

9 posted on 08/16/2021 7:03:39 AM PDT by BroJoeK (looking for a new tag line...)
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To: FormerFRLurker; BrexitBen
FormerFRLurker: "Not just the RINOs, I'm afraid.
Many Freepers who seemed okay with Trump talking about ending the war in Afghanistan have now changed their tune now that Biden is actually doing it. "

I don't think Trump ever intended what we're seeing today.
It's not an orderly withdrawal, it's a 1975-Saigon-level rout, the details of which have not yet even begun to be explained.

10 posted on 08/16/2021 7:09:58 AM PDT by BroJoeK (looking for a new tag line...)
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To: FormerFRLurker

I for one haven’t “changed my tune” - I supported Trump’s withdrawal because it made sense and he had a plan for an orderly withdrawal. Xiden OTOH abandoned his post in the dead of night.

Big difference.


11 posted on 08/16/2021 7:13:12 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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It's not an orderly withdrawal, it's a 1975-Saigon-level rout, the details of which have not yet even begun to be explained.

And like Vietnam the war in Afghanistan amounts to pouring money and the lives of our men and women in uniform down a rat hole for an objective that will never be achieved. "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results"-Albert Einstein.

12 posted on 08/16/2021 7:14:46 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: BroJoeK
So we'll see how long it takes the Times to tell us the hard truth of this matter.

Judging from some of the letters and diary entries written this week, it seems that word of mouth is ahead of the newspapers. Like George Strong wrote yesterday, if this is victory then give us some defeats.

13 posted on 08/16/2021 7:38:17 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation gets the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: FormerFRLurker

“And like Vietnam the war in Afghanistan amounts to pouring money and the lives of our men and women in uniform down a rat hole for an objective that will never be achieved.”

Soviet analysts said that the cost of the Vietnam War moved the collapse of the USSR forward by ten years.

Trying to protect the South Vietnamese from the bloodbath committed by the communists was worth doing.

Moving the collapse of the USSR forward by ten years was worth doing.

All other things being equal, opposing evil is the right thing to do.

Our boys did not die in vain. That is a leftwad lie.


14 posted on 08/16/2021 9:28:33 AM PDT by dsc (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. G. K. Chesterton)
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Soviet analysts said that the cost of the Vietnam War moved the collapse of the USSR forward by ten years.

And the cost of the Afghanistan war likely moved the collapse of the USSA forward by 10 years. Every dollar spent in Afghanistan is a dollar not being spent in paying back our huge deficit, much of our debt being held by China, the real threat.

15 posted on 08/17/2021 6:53:03 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: FormerFRLurker

Did I give the impression that I approve of our course in Afghanistan?

My son is a Marine, and I don’t want the demonrats to get him killed because they are incompetent.


16 posted on 08/17/2021 10:13:04 AM PDT by dsc (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. G. K. Chesterton)
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